To: 2MAR$ who wrote (36626 ) 3/19/2004 1:17:59 AM From: Jamey Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621 I commend Voltaire. However, the cruel designs of man are well know in the Church and in the world; wherever you find greed, avarice and pride you find the footprints of man's inhumanity against man. This is not the work of God or of the Son of God but in the evil that men do who do not serve as true representatives of the Holy Church. We should seek to find the good in men and not extoll the evil that men do in a vain attempt to demoralize Christians about the Church. I feel sorry for those who look to material implements of the Church as being part of their salvation. Would that they know that The Church of God resides in the heart. "The terrible conditions existing in the times when St. Francis lived are well known to you, Venerable Brothers. It is quite true that then the faith was more deeply rooted in the people, as is proven by the holy enthusiasm with which not only professional soldiers but even citizens of every class bore arms in Palestine to free the Holy Sepulcher. However, heresies gradually arose and grew in the vineyard of the Lord, propagated either by open heretics or by sly deceivers who, because they professed a certain austerity of life and gave a false appearance of virtue and piety, easily led weak and simple souls astray. They went about, too, amid the multitudes spreading the destructive flames of rebellion. If some of these men, in their pride, believed themselves called by God to reform the Church to which they imputed the faults of private persons, even going to the length of rebelling against the teachings and authority of the Holy See, later they openly manifested the real intention by which they were inspired. It is a notorious fact that before long the greater part of these heretics ended their careers in licentiousness and vice, and succeeded in embroiling the state in difficulties and in undermining the foundations of religion, of property, of the family, and of society. In a word, what happened then is precisely what we see recurring so often in the course of the centuries; rebellions leveled against the Church are followed or accompanied by rebellions against the state, the one receiving aid and comfort from the other." The Life and Times of Saint Francis of Assisifranciscan-archive.org Lord make me an instrument of your peace Where there is hatred, Let me sow love; Where there is injury, pardon; Where there is doubt, faith; Where there is despair, hope; Where there is darkness, light; And where there is sadness, Joy. O Divine Master grant that I may Not so much seek to be consoled As to console; To be understood, As to understand; To be loved as to love. For it is in giving that we receive, It is in pardoning that we are pardoned. And it is in dying that we are Born to eternal life. Amen James