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To: E. T. who wrote (555480)	3/23/2004 7:48:45 PM
From: Ryan Plovie (Hijacked)	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 769670

That's right, gays only want to make their lifestyle socially acceptable to children. It ensures them fresh supply of boys...I mean, men. Oh yes, that's right, you're one of those genetic theorists. There's no way a young boy will be attracted to that alternative lifestyle no matter how appealing they try to make it. Isn't that right, ET? There's no way a young 4-5 year old boy with two daddies and surrounded by many many uncles will ever consider adopting that lifestyle when his time comes. After all, at that age the kid will know what's normal, right ET????

To: E. T. who wrote (555480)	3/23/2004 8:09:04 PM
From: Gus	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769670

*<font color=red>There is no connection between being gay and child molestation*</font> Of course there is! To say otherwise reveals more about you than you realize. Homesexuality is an unnatural state caused by sin that leads more easily to other sins. That's why the Judeo-Christian tradition is rich with guidelines about hating the sin but loving the sinner. It is not normal (less than 3-4% of the population). It is not genetic. Otherwise you would actually have normal people planning to have homosexual babies. Or you would hear more nurses and midwives around the world proclaiming every 3 minutes, "Rejoice! It's a baby homosexual!" <font color=gray> The issue of love between men and boys has intersected the gay movement since the late nineteenth century, with the rise of the first gay rights movement in Germany. In the United States, as the gay movement has retreated from its vision of sexual liberation, in favor of integration and assimilation into existing social and political structures, it has increasingly sought to marginalize even demonize cross-generational love. Pederasty - that is, love between a man and a youth of 12 to 18 years of age - say middle-class homosexuals, lesbians, and feminists, has nothing to do with gay liberation. Some go so far as to claim, absurdly, that it is a heterosexual phenomenon, or even "sexual abuse." What a travesty Pederasty is the main form that male homosexuality has acquired throughout Western civilization - and not only in the West! Pederasty is inseparable from the high points of Western culture - ancient Greece and the Renaissance. In Germany, in the late nineteenth century, pederasty was an integral part of the new gay movement. The first gay journal in the world - Der Eigene, published beginning in 1896 (one year before the formation of the first homosexual rights group, the Scientific Humanitarian Committee of Magnus Hirschfeld) - was a pederast and anarchist journal "for male culture" with an individualist anarchist outlook based on the ideas of Max Stirner (author of Der Einzige und sein Eigentum). Its publisher, Adolf Brand, was a leading figure of the gay movement throughout the first decades, until the Nazis came to power. The journal continued to appear until 1933. Brand died in an Allied bombing of Berlin in 1945. Another leading pederast and writer, Benedict Friedlaender, was also a leader of Hirschfeld's committee, until 1908 when he committed suicide. Not unlike today, the two groups - the pederasts in the Gemeinschaft der Eigenen (the Community of Self- Owners) and the Hirschfeld group - constituted two wings of the gay movement. Although they collaborated in some things (for example, both opposed the sodomy statute, Paragraph 175), sharp ideological and scientific differences separated them. In uncanny ways, many of these differences persist in the quite different circumstances of today. </font> bway.net ACLU to Defend NAMBLA Associated Press Aug. 31, 2000 BOSTON -- The American Civil Liberties Union will represent a group that advocates sex between men and boys in a lawsuit brought by the family of a slain 10-year-old. The family of Jeffrey Curley of Cambridge said the North American Man/Boy Love Association and its web site which is now off-line incited the attempted molestation and murder of the boy on Oct. 1, 1997. One of two men convicted in the killing, Charles Jaynes, 25, reportedly viewed the group's web site shortly before the killing, and also had in his possession some of NAMBLA's publications. Also convicted in the killing was 24-year-old Salvatore Sicari. The ACLU said the case, filed in federal court in mid-May, involves issues of freedom of speech and association. "For us, it is a fundamental First Amendment case," John Roberts, executive director of the Massachusetts branch of the ACLU, told Boston Globe Wednesday. "It has to do with communications on a web site, and material that does not promote any kind of criminal behavior whatsoever." ACLU officials said NAMBLA members deny encouraging coercion, rape or violence. operationlookout.org <font color=blue> "That 81 percent of the reported victims of child sexual abuse by Catholic clergy were boys shows that the crisis was characterized by homosexual behavior," the board said. In light of that, it said, "the current crisis cannot be addressed without consideration of issues related to homosexuality." The report drew the 81 percent figure from the John Jay study on the nature and scope of clerical sexual abuse of minors, which was released at the same time as the report. The study said 22 percent of the alleged victims were under 11 years of age. It said about 51 percent were 11 to 14 years old and 27 percent were 15 to 17 years old. It said male victims tended to be older than female victims, and "over 40 percent of all victims were males between the ages of 11 and 14." catholicnews.com