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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (127982)	3/31/2004 4:42:21 PM
From: redfish	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I'll offer you one prediction. If we don't attempt it, rather instead turning tail and running,* we're going to see the cost in dollars and American lives (and jobs) soar even higher in the future.* False Dichotomy A dichotomy is a set of two mutually exclusive, jointly exhaustive alternatives. Dichotomies are typically expressed with the words "either" and "or", like this: "Either the test is wrong or the program is wrong." A false dichotomy is a dichotomy that is not jointly exhaustive (there are other alternatives), or that is not mutually exclusive (the alternatives overlap), or that is possibly neither. Examples: "If you want better public schools, you have to raise taxes. If you don't want to raise taxes, you can't have better schools." - A third alternative is that you could spend the existing tax money more efficiently. "You're either part of the solution or part of the problem." - No room for innocent bystanders here. "If you're not with us, you're against us." - Being neutral is not an option. c2.com False dichotomy In a false dichotomy (also called a false dilemma, either or, black or white, the missing middle) you are presented with two choices, when in fact there are more than two choices. If one choice is discredited, then the reader is forced to accept the other choice. But this is not an adequate argument, the choice favored must be supported by evidence. info-pollution.com False Dichotomy The fallacy of false dichotomy is committed when the arguer claims that his conclusion is one of only two options, when in fact there are other possibilities. The arguer then goes on to show that the 'only other option' is clearly outrageous, and so his preferred conclusion must be embraced.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (127982)	3/31/2004 5:10:40 PM
From: Sig	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Some complain that Bush is not tough enough on terrorism, and complain about the high costs. Here is the Office 0f Homeland Security ,which is going to be fairly tough on terrorists and costs $18 bil whitehouse.gov The war on terror is just beginning,with much to learn,and is therefore a form of experiment,including Iraq. And yet the Public asks for schedules and costs as though some seer can produce those. Could we convince the Pakistanis to go where no government has gone for 50 years, and raid remote villages.? Apparently so, and we learn from that what it takes to root out terrorists in rough terrain- their own stomping grounds. The final question is can the USA go the distance,pay the price, stay the course, when we have often failed in the past.. My hope is that it will not take any more major strikes like the one in Spain to be convincing. Sig