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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: redfish who wrote (12440)	4/5/2004 8:21:22 AM
From: lorne	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 81568

redfish. You said...." If there is intense street fighting, Bush will have a hard time maintaining the pretense that the war has been won. ".... Do you give any thought at all to the many people some of them innocent that may be killed or are you only concerned with making President Bush look bad and thereby making kerry look good. You should at least be ashamed of what you said and the thought process behind it.

To: redfish who wrote (12440)	4/5/2004 10:12:50 AM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81568

Redfish, this is the first time that his massive public relations efforts cannot lay the violence in Iraq onto "Saddam's dead enders" or "foreign terrorists." The Iraqi street in the Sunni neighborhood of Falluja and the Shiite street in Sadre have given us pictures of tens of thousands of Iragis rejoicing at the deaths of the American soldiers that Bush claimed he'd sent to "liberate" them. This will mark a turning point in the desperate attempt to doublespeak the reality in Iraq. Even the Bush counter information apparatus cannot turn this truth on its ear. Maybe America will finally be able to debate reality instead of fiction and maybe we'll finally be able to understand why the rest of the world didn't think invading and occupying Iraq was such a good idea. I don't buy the "Iraqi police forces aren't ready" line. I suspect they'll never be ready to gun down their fellow citizens who are simply following the instructions of the clerics. I feel very sorry for our soldiers and wish that Cheney/Bush were there with them so they could test all of their "open arms and flowers" thinking and examine their "resolve" with THEIR lives on the line instead of the lives of others. Cheney might be up to it for a day or two but I think Bush would bolt at the first shot.