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To: Bilow who wrote (129177)	4/13/2004 10:07:49 PM
From: Sam	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Hi Carl, But look at the WMD situation. The Bush administration eventually was forced to admit that they weren't there. Well, Kay said that they weren't there. But Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, and others have pretty consistently said that they still believe that they will find some, or at least that the "jury is out" on the question. Too bad Kerry's father isn't running for President. They say that the acorn doesn't fall far from the tree, but that's not been my observation. If GWB had his dad's wisdom, we wouldn't be in Iraq. I still haven't seen a realistic statement by Kerry on what he wants to do in Iraq. Yes, good point. But Carl, there is no "realistic statement" that is possible that anyone could get elected on. Anyone saying that they would pull out of Iraq unilaterally (e.g., Kucinich) will get less than 5% of the vote--as Kucinich does. Kerry likely won't do as I think you want, but neither will Bush. Kerry at least is more likely to be able to convince others to take on some of the pain and some of the risk. Bush has belittled too many people for them to do this for him, IMO. Kerry won't run American foreign policy on the "idealistic" basis that Bush proclaimed in his speech tonight, I'm sure of that. Whatever he says during the election.

To: Bilow who wrote (129177)	4/13/2004 11:43:48 PM
From: Sarmad Y. Hermiz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

>> But look at the WMD situation. The Bush administration eventually was forced to admit that they weren't there. >> I didn't see the video Carl, Well if you do, and you listen to the last couple minutes you'll hear him say with his own voice that he "still thinks the wmd will be found". That person is delusional. Sarmad

To: Bilow who wrote (129177)	4/14/2004 7:59:05 AM
From: Harvey Allen	Respond to of 281500

Pentagon to extend 20,000 soldiers' tours Wednesday, April 14, 2004 Posted: 3:14 AM EDT (0714 GMT) WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Pentagon is about to approve a request by U.S. Central Commander Gen. John Abizaid that will result in up to 20,000 U.S. troops remaining in Iraq an extra three months, sources tell CNN. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is expected to sign off on the extended tours in the next day or so, the sources said Tuesday. Sources said that most of the troops will be from the 1st Armored Division, which had been scheduled to return to Germany this month, but instead was redeployed to retake the Iraqi city of Kut. Abizaid said Monday he had requested a "strong mobile combat arms capability," which he defined as "two brigades worth of combat power, if not more." Two Army brigades would number roughly 10,000 troops. But if the entire division -- including its support troops -- were kept in Iraq, the number would be closer to 20,000 troops. cnn.com