To: brian h who wrote (48571 ) 4/14/2004 11:12:12 PM From: TobagoJack Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 74559 Hello Brian, <<Who can really beat the market without proper DD???? >> The simple answer, if asked of me, is that I do not know. Please do not detect any sarcasm in my writing below as none is meant to be there. Just read my comments at face value, as that is all there is. I am taking your question as one to anyone and everyone on the thread, since I am certain you are not the type of person to ask questions unless you want to be generously helpful in an altruistic manner, to save fortunes and lives. And, to frame the question in a proper parameter of context, only if you care to, could you tell the thread generally what are some of your other positions that have survived a proper DD process, and what is the general allocation between this cash, that equity, the other bonds and such so that the thread can get a sense of the overall context of your proper DD in relation to criticality of same. I think (a) it is great that you want to be altruistically helpful, and (b) it all depends on your definition of 'proper DD'. For my part, as I have informed the thread before, again, and once more, I tend not to believe I can know much (i.e. enough) about any company over any length of time that will do me good while waiting, even when I am an insider. And so why patiently wait? Why not instead loot? While the looting is good? Until it is no good? As long as we are just picking winners, I will randomly pick three such cases. For example, I know nothing about NEM that I would honor with the phrase 'DD', much less grace with 'proper DD'. I do know my cost basis in NEM is effectively zero achamchen.com since my dealings with it starting in the days of DotCom, before DotBomb. I also know nothing about the Energy royalties, except that they have been paying into my account a whole lot of spend able cash ever since I have owned them, every month, month after month, on the designated days, without fail. I am sure that had anyone followed my trades, they will agree that the looting has been good, and for such a patiently long (as in considerable) elapsed time, and, in the case of NEM, covering a variety of market temperature for the underlying asset. In the case of energy royalties, they have simply been paying out at 12-18%, and scoring capital gains as an palliative to encourage further waiting, patiently. As a last example, Lumacom, where I knew almost all that was knowable about any company by just about any one person and my position size grew to 20 times the size of my normally allowed position size, but I still would not claim ‘I knew the company after proper DD’. In fact, in my game approach, there is no patience required, as there is no patience required while one is standing in the middle of a cash-filled bank vault or a rapidly collapsing cave. It is a game, a dangerous and fun game, but a game. Chugs, Jay P.S. On <<AUO, SSTI, SNDK, QCOM continue to go higher>> Are they still good value, are you adding or holding (which is the same as buying at today's price)? Will you tell us when you sell as you sell?