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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (129633)4/24/2004 10:58:19 PM
From: Sarmad Y. Hermiz  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
>> Well, while the Sunnis and Shiites are tearing themselves apart in sectarian strife and criminal gangsterism,

I don't see news about sectarian strife in Iraq on the US internet. I don't look at Al-Jazeera, or Fox, so maybe I'm not well-informed. I thought just the opposite. That resistance to the occupation is coming from many sections of Iraqi society. Except for America's new darlings, of course - the Kurds. However, it would behoove the Kurds to remember that the US sold them down the river in 1975 with Henry Kissinger's famous explanation that "covert operations is not missionary work.:" Of course the US abandoned the Kurds again in 1991.

counterpunch.org
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I supplied a couple of references. Not because I expect you to change your mind. But in case someone here sincerely believes there is even a smidgen of morality to US policy in the middle east, they can disabuse themselves of that notion.

>> the Kurds are silently consolidating their position in the north, establishing their economy and exploiting their own resources.

The Kurds are Iraqis too. Something which I sense you don't agree with. And if, as you suggest, there is no part for ethnic Kurds to play in an Iraqi government, then there will be serious repercussions.

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What will doom the Kurds in Iraq is not their ethnicity. It is that their current leaders are allied with the occupation. If the occupation is pushed out, I believe its internal allies will not be regarded favorably.

>> Hmmm... I remember when people used to make the same arguments about the Bosnians, Croats, Serbs and Kosovars..

Until that little difference called "religion" divided them.

And now you'll try and have us believe that there is little difference between Sunnis and Shiites? Really now...

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OK. What is the difference between Sunna and Shiia ?

Hint: There is none. Please supply any reference of a conflict that was classified as a fight between Sunna and Shiia ? What territory in Iraq have the Shiia been pushed out of ? Or the Sunna for that matter ? Do they have a conflict over the ownership of mosques ? How about farm-land ? Have you ever heard that an individual in Iraq was attacked or kidnapped for being from any religion ? But you have heard of many foreigners being kidnapped for being associated with the occupation.

You may be tempted to refer to the attack on a preacher named Hakim. That one was in iran for 20 years, and his brother is appointed by the US to the so-called governing council, which of course does not govern anything, and will be dissolved by the whim of the US in June. Anyway, I think he was attacked for being a foreign agent. Not for being a Shiia.