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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (17315)	4/28/2004 12:32:55 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

"What moral principles would you follow if God was out of the picture?" Don't get too excited. The man that denies the Sun exists still enjoys it's rays. Likewise It is possible to have an internalized morality without recognizing it's source. I would have similar values if I were not a Christian, although I would not have a rational basis beyond preference for asserting them or requiring them of others. I and all people have an innate sense of right and wrong, That common knowledge stems from the fact that as created sentient beings we reflect certain attributes of our Creator. Kant was just wrong. God's existence can clearly be seen in the creation and conscience as well as common experience tells us what God's standards and character are like. This is what theologians call General Revelation. Natural Theology flows from General Revelation, and Natural Theology produces Natural Law. Natural Law rests on the foundation of Natural Theology. Kant saw the necessity of Natural Law for society to function but in (supposedly) destroying the foundation of Natural Theology, he has in essence destroyed the Law. It seems we are just starting to catch on to this. The current scandal in Ottawa is a good example of this. One witness who was involved in the 100 million dollar "boondoggle" feigned innocence when she said "no rules were broken, there were no rules to break" This is where the western civilization is. There is no Law and yet we are still outraged when we see the Law that is not, broken. Our biggest problem now is that we are unable to prosecute the crimes we know have been committed. Most people will continue to hold to the old standard even though that standard is no longer enforceable. Rather like an elephant who having grown up with an unbreakable chain around it's leg stops trying to break it even when it's replaced by nothing but a flimsy rope. Today the elephant is realizing that there is no real reason for him to consider the rope as anything but a suggestion. "Of course, there are differences of opinion and these differences are reflected in different societies." Yes, Germany had their own opinion, and even came up with a "final solution" Was it wrong for those pesky fundamentalist Allies to impose their morality on the Germans? "Centuries ago, a group of people left England for America and then created a Revolution against England and her moral structure which centered on a Church. They believed instead that all people had basic human rights and freedoms, and in particular, that they had the right to worship or not as they saw fit and without coercion or negative consequence." That is true but what you fail to recognize is, that belief "that all people had basic human rights and freedoms" was grounded in a God who grants these "rights". Take away that ground and you have nothing left. This is why I say your engine is running on the fumes of Theism, but having emptied the tank, you can't keep going for long.