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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Win Smith who wrote (18885)	4/28/2004 1:57:51 PM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 81568

Why Bushies are lying about Kerry "flip-flopping": What a Bushie means by a flip-flop is that after lying to congress, Bushies get exposed and Senators like Kerry realize that they were deliberately misled. Let me give you a few other examples: - Medicare bill (Bush said it would cost 135 billion less than it did, then admitted it only AFTER the voting) - Iraq War - Bushies promised to go the UN route and invade only as a last resort, but obviously didn't do that, also falsifying and exaggerating WMD's evidence. - No CHild LEft Behind - a huge scam by Bushies, promising many high-faluting goals then refusing to fund them and leaving the states with unfdunded mandates. Also, flaws in the policy need to be fixed. - Patriot Act - flaws need to be fixed, both parties agree. - Tax cuts - obviously the Bush tax cuts are much fiscally reckless and irresponsible than anyone imagined at the time. They need to be partially rolled back at least to pay for the war - Death sentences for terrorists - after 9-11 JK realized we need it. It wasn't a flipo-flop it was a reaction to a serious new situation. - NAFTA - needs fixing or scrapping because it's given away TOO many jobs to the third world, Bush isn't enforcing its rules either. * I suppose Bushies think one should never change one's mind or correct mistakes and flaws, even though the world is changing all around us. So silly. Besides, Bush changes his mind all the time. He flips all the time, whenever the polls show.

To: Win Smith who wrote (18885)	4/28/2004 2:27:33 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 81568

Win You said....." You accused American Spirit of being vicious, Orcastraiter asked you to substantiate, and you went off in another direction."..... I did not as you say " went off in another direction." Orca was heading in the wrong direction and I explained to him what I had said. Here is the post that I sent to orca.>>>>> orca. You said....." Please post a link to the nasty post that you think warrants he be removed from this thread. Specifically comment on his post and why he should be removed. Orca "..... Please post a link where I said any poster should be removed? I spoke only about being fair in the treatment of posters with regards to their personal attacks on others. You see something there suggesting a poster be removed? Message 20071544 ------------------------------------------- Here is another post I sent ....." Chris. Have a look at a poster on this thread American spirit....look back a bit and tell me if you approve of this kind of poster? I don't. However it appears that this poster is pro democrat so that appears to make that kind of vicious behavior ok. So I'm not talking about a poster being pro dem or pro rep. I'm talking about just plain nasty. "..... ---------------------------------- In my original post to Chinu I question his treatment of posters who like to engage in personal attacks on others and if he was being fair. I personally don't care if a poster likes to use personal attacks, I suppose I could call names just as well as any of them but for the most part I try not to.

To: Win Smith who wrote (18885)	4/28/2004 2:53:36 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81568

Win. You said...." You accused American Spirit of being vicious,"..... That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. :-) AS keeps calling me names so I would guess the he/she don't think to highly of me either. who cares. Anyway here are a couple of post from as. Do you think they could be thought of as vicious or nasty? ------------------ Did Rush Limbaugh give drugs to Hewitt? What drug is it that you take to start babbling stupid lies non-stop in a very desperate, frenetic way? Oxycotin and crystal methedrine mixture maybe? Message 20070912 ....." Only an ignorant idiot or liar would doubt anything I said. "..... Message 20069550