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To: epicure who wrote (130828)	5/1/2004 9:57:48 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Not wanting to go to war over human rights is not the same thing as not "willing to lift a finger to fight for them"- there are sometimes better ways of fighting (at least in some people's opinions), that don't involve killing and maiming people, or occupying the country of the people you are trying to "help". I would love to hear about some of those alternatives.. I certainly would love to know about anything that would avoid outright war and would effectively halt such human rights atrocities... This should be interesting... Please humour me... Hawk

To: epicure who wrote (130828)	5/1/2004 2:44:04 PM
From: cosmicforce	Respond to of 281500

It is very difficult to make a human rights case for cluster bombs and depleted uranium being sprayed over Iraq - a nation of about 10% of our population where most are living at a near-Stone Age existence. I saw this recent claim of a military success regarding 25 buildings hit with bombs and producing 10 wounded. Either we're striking empty buildings (not much of a military mission there) OR we are lying our ass off when it comes to "collateral damage" (not likely to win the Hearts and Minds if we are leaving pieces of babies in the streets). If anyone thinks that the recent antics in Fallujah will make America safe(r), they must be smoking some pretty strong stuff.