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To: Sam who wrote (131423)	5/4/2004 5:18:14 PM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 281500

I do not agree with Carl. I have not collected a dossier against him, and do not intend to, to try to catch him out or rehash old arguments. I have, however, been called by him names like liar, coward, and idiot. Obviously, I am not one to admire his output, even if I do not go out of my way to trash him.........

To: Sam who wrote (131423)	5/4/2004 7:03:17 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Were you reading the thread while Carl was arguing that we would not go to war against Iraq? Because it went on for months, and he was quite obnoxious about it, taunting those of us who thought that there would be a war quite early on, and later, pretty much everybody but him. Let's see - I think BigBull was the first to post about it, I know it was Summer, 2002, I think June? Or July. Here we go, August 8, 2002, BigBull to LindyBill. Message 17855375 And we argued about it until March, 2003, so that's seven months of Carl being insufferable. Then when the war started, he disappeared for a few days, and when he came back, tore into LindyBill because the war was such a bad idea and nobody had listened to him. Very rude, and not one single word about being wrong. Carl, you see, is never wrong. So, yeah, we do give him a hard time, but he earned it.

To: Sam who wrote (131423)	5/4/2004 11:39:53 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 281500

But he has been proven right about many more things than that, and many of the same people who complain about him being "wrong" that once made at least some of (and at times, many of) the predictions he listed. Nah, Carl just has a "Math-o-Magic" blender that he puts all current reports into, whizzes them together with some absurd pontifications about the necessity of killing 5% of some population or other, or the absolute universality of some rule he's just thought up, and declares that he has just been proven correct, grabbing brief quotes from his previous postings (which are so numerous and so varied in content that suitable quotes can always be found) to "prove" the point. He can be persuasive to those who haven't absorbed the method. Oh, yes, he never, ever admits error, he simply disappears for a while when proven wrong. Also, he liberally laces contempt and name-calling for those who disagree with him, calling people "liar" and heaping scorn on those who disagree with him very freely.