To: Road Walker who wrote (188145 ) 5/8/2004 12:58:34 PM From: tejek Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578731 re: So there you have it........they have a morality that fits whatever scenario comes up.......an inconsistent morality if you will. A morality that works for all seasons. It is interesting. But frankly I feel more than a slight shift from the hawks side. That they are at least thinking this "war" was handled very poorly, if it wasn't an outright mistake from the start. Seeing those pictures is a slap in the face, a moment that heightens your senses, makes you review your entrenched beliefs. For all sides, really. Sorry, John, but that's just too idealistic for me to accept. Just because a kid gets his hand caught in the cookie jar does not turn him around. Most people's psychological bottoms are much lower than that. The Bushies have been chastened but only mildly. They have spent twenty years getting to where they are at.......do you think a few porno pics are going to change all that effort? Not in this lifetime. Look around you........has Harris changed, Ten? DR? Any of them? Nada! They believe what they believe and its too bad about the Iraqis. MSo IMHO it's not the time to say "I told you so" wrt the "war". As bad as this situation is, it is also an opportunity to clear the air wrt our national conscious, and set a new and better direction, with a consensus from all sides. 9/11 shook us to the core, and (IMHO) sent us down a dark path. This "event" may be the other end of that path, and the decisions we make, together, may lead to a reawakening of what this country stands for. I disagree. You have to play hardball with these guys. That's all they understand. Remember how they think: liberals are wimpy and soft; neocons are pragmatic and strong.As bad as this was, it could make us better and stronger, after a really unsettling period of self examination. Let's see how the politicians handle it. This country hasn't hit its bottom. Sadly, its going to get worse before it gets better. ted