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To: AC Flyer who wrote (49807)5/11/2004 9:27:11 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
AC Flyer,

I do enjoy it when I can find points of agreement with people on SI. Your latest post is one that I feel particularly happy to have received. We do have some points that we agree on.

For instance:

The Axis of Stupidity! That's great!

It is a funny way of describing a serious problem. I agree with you that it is a quizzical attribute of the American public that it is so doggedly superstitious (aka religious).

Clearly, efforts by the elites to use religion as an "opiate for the masses" is a big part of why America is so religious. Such superstition is simply not permitted to get traction in more sophisticated cultures in the other OECD countries which are all substantially less inclined toward pseudo-intellectual mythologies.

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Re: While George Bush is clearly not a moron, he is no rocket scientist either, and he does not draw a sufficient distinction between church and state,

I absolutely agree with this opinion.

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Re: We went to Iraq with the goal of combating terrorism and I was willing to give Bush the benefit of the doubt on that.

Here's where you and I will part company. Before the war, I led anti-war street demonstrations here in my home town. Due to my notoriety, I was invited to appear on two separate public affairs forums on two separate television stations in town. I made it perfectly clear in late 2002 that the invasion of Iraq was to be perpetrated for three reasons.

1) Imperial Arrogance,
2) Israel, I.e., the U.S. military was to do the dirty work for the Israeli imperialists who lust after Greater Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates and
3) The Theft of the Iraqi Oil Prize.

I have seen nothing in the 14 months since we invaded Iraq to dissuade me from my view that these were the three goals of King George's Most Excellent Adventure.

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Re: My main issue with xymphora is that, as far as I can tell, this material is written anonymously.

As opposed to someone who uses the screen of, umm, AC Flyer, for instance? <vbg>

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All the best, I savor the notion that you have so much good sense about religion. I love finding something so admirable about my correspondents!

Cheerio!



To: AC Flyer who wrote (49807)5/11/2004 10:55:50 PM
From: LPS5  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
That's a fine post, AC.

LPS5



To: AC Flyer who wrote (49807)5/11/2004 11:58:16 PM
From: LLCF  Respond to of 74559
 
<While George Bush is clearly not a moron>

Actually, IMO he exhibits lots of moronic bahaviour but I think it's because of his anxious personality. He is often defensive and anxious and actually sometimes looks SCARED at press conferences and other media events. He is clearly NOT a clear thinker and shouldn't be in a position to have to do so IMO.

DAK



To: AC Flyer who wrote (49807)5/12/2004 1:46:42 AM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum  Respond to of 74559
 
AC,
and he does not draw a sufficient distinction between church and state, imo. Well OK I'm a church going guy but frankly I think you are going too easy on Mr. Bush here... This fellow says it better ... Jesus told Bush? :o) although that was really only said for effect.. Message 20119650

Axis of stupidity ... that is funny ... like extras from the movie 'Deliverance' LOL.. yeah and they shouldn't be confused with the real soldiers (whether or not you condone the war in Iraq is moot). These chaps remind of those kids that took pleasure in pulling the wings off flies.. There is a world of difference between killing an enemy and enjoying the discomfort of another human being you've got in a jar... (IMO)

The one thing that I most don't get about the USA is why so many are so religious That is funny ... in the 50's we Canuckies were more religious than Americans apparently but now less than 20% of Canucks go to Church. (Boy I'm not only an ethnic minority !!) I can't for the life of me the last time anybody asked me that...

to remind our ideological opponents that it exists seems like a plan if you get the right guys...

Kastel