As I read your message, I see that it contains very little in the way of information or value.
This is true only because you're a friggin' numbskull. Reasonable people will understand the obvious difference between the muslims' murdering completely innocent people and the Catholics' retaliation against those who are directly responsible for inhabiting Christian lands, murdering Christians and destroying Christian holy sites.
You seem to have taken a page from Coulter, with her one-fact-per-chapter surrounded by sarcasm and insults.
Hey, pal. You're the one who called me a "neocon", "bushie" and other names. I quite enjoy when numbskulls get into this sort of thing, but if you can't hack it, then be kind. I am simply cueing off of you.
Since people like you only understand insults etc, I'll keep it short, bozo.
Very well then, numbskull.
Islam's hierarchy is not flat.
Never said it was "flat." But if muslims can listen to whoever they wish and if these people doing the defining of their religion are not answerable to any governing authority, then there is no real authority with ultimate power to declare what is islam and what is not. Osama's many followers, as well as those of many other hostile clerics, are free to determine for themselves what is islam. They have obviously made their choices and all your crap about their views not being islam is revealed to be utter hogwash, meaninglessness, especially since their religion calls for outright murder, despite your impotent claims.
Muslims are free to choose who they listen to (unlike Catholics who are bound to whichever joe the red club decides to elect).
Well, that joe has the ability to declare what is Roman Catholic and what is not, just as other Christian authorities and bodies of authorities have the ability to definitively declare what is acceptable and what is not. Islam has no such authority. There is no one who can legitimately claim islam is wrong as it seeks to murder innocent people.
Clerics can 'earn' their way into positions of respect and authority, which in turn earns them a wider audience and more say in things like religious rulings.
And we see that some of these have earned so much respect that their followers even now, tens of thousands of them, are seeking to murder innocent people all over the world. And their audience is so wide that when they are successful, millions support them. Friggin' numbskull.
If you choose to ignore this fact, fine, but that's just another example of you ignoring reality.
3000 people murdered by muslims as millions cheer across the world and you talk about friggin' "reality." Dude, you need to stop drinking.
Many Muslims are angry at America because of their support of Israel, which they see as murdering their Muslim brothers.
Still doesn't give them the right to murder people, many of whom are not even privy to the nature of American support for Israel. And even were they privy to it, they themselves are not necessarily in support of it and are bnot guilty of any infraction. They have a natural right to live and the muslims are denying this human right to thousands. They are wrong. Their heathen religion is wrong. And you are actually trying to give consideration to this utter desecration of human identity. You really are a numbskull.
You conveniently ignore that fact, and seem to only see when Christians are killed.
You ought not be such a numbskull. My concern is that islam is destroying human nature where it has no right to do so, not even a potential right. It is wicked for that reason and I am amongst the very few willing to stand up and outright call it what it is. Were Christians doing to muslims what muslims are doing to the world, I would be hot to reject the Christians and see them brought to justice. But Christians are not doing this. No one is. Only islam, and no muslim is waging a substantive counter-force against this hellishness. Since I see no real counter-defining force, I can only conclude that the islam that murderers freely, as millions cheer for and sustain it and as millions of others sit by in relative silence, is the islam of greatest potency and relevance. It is the top dog of islam - definitive islam.
In fact, the kill ratio between Palestinians and Israelis is 3 to 1. Palestinians see Israel as an occupying force, and believe that fighting them is akin to a war for indepedence.
Well, there are many who legitimately have a different view of the matter, considering that Israel had obviously been in the land historically and that in recent times didn't just march into the land to take it heedlessly. It was established by gift of Great Britain, via world council, through which it received its legitimacy despite arab rejection.
"Following World War II, the British withdrew from their mandate of Palestine, and the UN partitioned the area into Arab and Jewish states, an arrangement rejected by the Arabs."
cia.gov
The arabs were morally compelled to negotiate the arrangements civilly, as it would have had England maintained its claim. They have no right to outright murder anyone.
Bozo Laden has twisted that into a war on America, essentially attempting to export the conflict from Palestine to the rest of the world. He has claimed it is for religious reasons, and every Muslim should fight.
You have lost the exchange, Kevin. You lost it long ago, when I attacked your view at its root. Now, I merely exploit you to record my views here. You are reduced to calling Osama "bozo," because it is the only means, fallacious as it clearly is, whereby you can delegitimize him. You, without even knowing it, are proving my point.
Very few Muslims have actually taken up his cause, percentage wise.
And the 3000 murdered people on 911 don't give a crap about these percentages, especially since the tacit support of islamic barbarism appears so great. You need not actually throw a bomb to be an islamic savage. You merely need to do nothing while your islamic brothers murder humans across the earth.
No major religious leaders in Islam have taken up his cause.
Of course they don't have to. His cause has quite a nice support system in islam. All the so-called "major" leaders need do is nothing, or utter some filthy platitude about islam and "peace."
It is NOT a war of Islam vs Christianity; it is a war of an evil man who is attempting to hijack his religion to gain support for his hate.
You are not an islamic pope or a Grand Diaperhead that you can authoritatively declare that islam has been "hijacked." You are simply making a claim that has no evidence behind it, this, to paint the numbskull image of islam you have in your little mind. I have evidence - tens of thousands of islamic savages, all murdering and seeking to murder innocent people in the name of their savage god.
i>Read the above once more, slowly if necessary.
Stop being a numbskull, rapidly.
That's it. It's not a jihad unless we turn it into one by giving the rest of the Muslim world reason to believe it is.
What a friggin' numbskull. "It's not a jihad unless we turn it into one..." Dude, I don't care if it is a friggin' G-hod, or H-hod or friggin' I-hod. All I care about is friggin' muslims savages whose religion gives them authority to murder my wife and children. The technical name for this heathen crap is completely irrelevant here. Only life, innocent life, matters. The muslims have no right to take it, regardless of their religious views.
By losing what credibility we have by being as repressive as the previous dictators. THAT is the danger we face.
What a friggin' numbskull. The muslims were hitting us repeatedly prior to Iraq, even under Clinton, when our credibility was high (ostensibly in your view). So we still faced the danger. Indeed, 3000 folks perished in a flash before we entered any friggin' heathen land. So this crap of yours is unworthy of consideration. If the muslims have issues, then they ought to have negotiated them civilly, persisting until they could gain a civilized following. That is the way of civilization. You are a friggin' numbskull. I may think I have every right to kick you in your numbskullic head. But since I value the lives of even numbskulls, I recognize the mathematical fact that as long as a numbskull's life has the attribute of innocence attached to it, I can have no claim upon it. No one has a claim, not even your beloved muslim savages.
Bozo Laden is winning, because Bush is playing right into his hands. We are powerless to fix our course until we throw the bum out.
What a numbskull. Bin Laden is winning because he is sustained by islam. Were the world of islam to turn against him on moral principle, he could not possibly survive. But islam has no moral principle. Million of muslims support utter savagery, allowing murderers to live and work right amongst them, to hide in islamic cells in other countries, seeking to murder. I once read a report in the LA Times estimating that thousands of muslims are now living amongst us who comprise many cells, years in the making, that will at some point begin "spectacular attacks" here on U.S. soil. That could not happen in an islam that had "peace" as its foundational principle. Adherents everywhere would be against it, even the lowest of them. There would be some significant challenge to it. But that challenge does not exist. I see that islam is evil.
People like you are the kind that start World Wars. Short sighted, misinformed, hateful of what you don't understand.
I understand life and the natural right of innocent humans to enjoy it as far as nature allows, whatever I may think of it. No one on earth has a thing to worry about from me because, higher truth aside (which you cannot understand), I hold human identity and life as the ultimate values. But when a force comes along that denies those values, that force becomes my enemy. That is where we are with islam. I am not starting a war here. The muslims started it. Before it is over, we are all going to have to fight it.
I'd pity you if it wasn't for the fact that you're gonna get me and my family killed.
No. You are going to get yourselves killed because you are too much a numbskull to prepare for the war that is obviously breathing down your neck. Numbskulls never have been good at survival. But nature seems determined to keep making numbskulls, as you demonstrate here. |
