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To: jim_p who wrote (32113)	5/11/2004 3:41:26 PM
From: Wowzer	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 206107

I am sorry I won't to turn a blind eye. I will hold my government accountable for its actions, period. Last time I checked we are still an open society with a democratic elected officials. The press needs to report what is going on over there good or bad. We had no business torturing those prisoners I don't care what the prisoners did. That is why we have laws in this country. We don't just form lynch mobs when someone commits a crime. Just because they do it, doesn't me we do. Now we are acting no better then Saddam, and our reason for doing this according to you is because well he did it, so we can to? I agree that only the 7 who got caught in pictures should not be the only ones punished but it needs to go all the way up the chain of command and it if stops at Bush then so be it. No branch of government should be able to do what ever the hell it wants, that is called a dictatorship.

To: jim_p who wrote (32113)	5/11/2004 3:51:06 PM
From: Tommaso	Respond to of 206107

O.T. >>>Give them the resources to win the war<<< It seemed to me that they won the war, but maybe I was mistaken. Are you perhaps thinking of another war? What does 9/11 have to do with Iraq? Most of the men that hijacked the airplanes came from Saudi Arabia. No one has been able find any connection between Iraq and 9/11. I recently sent the U.S. Government what was for me a very large check. I see nothing wrong with taking an interest in what the government does with my money. >>The only shame I see is putting American soldiers, who are risking their lives to defend their country, on trial for doing their job<< If they were following orders, no one seems very anxious to claim responsibility for giving those orders. Incidentally, do you know that General McArthur ordered that any U. S. soldier who struck a Japanese person after the surrender in 1945 was to be shot? I would agree with you if you thought the military commanders should have given the soldiers in Iraq definite and clear guidelines about dealing with persons who came into their power. Not establishing those guidelines was pretty negligent. But I hardly think there were upper-level decisions authorizing the abuse of prisoners. Now everyone from Bush on down is trying to cover up their negligence by putting lower-ranking soldiers on trial.

To: jim_p who wrote (32113)	5/11/2004 5:50:01 PM
From: chowder	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 206107

Our military trains our people to kill without prejudice and without remorse. Then our government places these young trained killers in an environment where they often can't differentiate between enemy or civilian. Most of these young people don't have the luxury of Monday morning quarterbacking their decisions. They have seen death and all of the other horrors that come with war and they are scared to death. Most of them just want to know how many enemy Iraqi's they need to kill before they come home. Most of these young people don't keep up with politics. Most come from poor backgrounds and all they want to do is to survive. In the face of death, if all they have done is have a dog nip at someone's balls, or make them wear women's panties over their head while being led around on a leash, I say so what. Let the military handle it. It doesn't need to be broadcast in every newspaper around the world. We let the military police their own in many other incidents without media attention. You don't see the prostitute rings on air craft carriers story broadcast all over the news. I suspect it's because the media wouldn't want to aid in having women removed from ships. In WWII, the Marine tank commanders used to hang the heads of Japanese from their gun turrents. It instilled fear in the enemy. In Vietnam, it was the collecting of ears from dead enemy and making necklaces out of them. In the middle east, it's freaky sex games with prisoners. I guess it's a sign of the times. It's hardly the thing to politicize and call for the heads of everyone up the line and pulling the troops out. Mistreatment of prisoners is merely the cost of doing business. It's how people, who are scared to death, react to dangerous surroundings in which they don't have very much control over their lives. Clean it up if you can but hardly the big deal most are trying to make out of it. dabum