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To: mph who wrote (188472)5/12/2004 8:39:12 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1575490
 
As for us, the American public is too quick to look all surprised when something bad happens. However, our gov't isn't all that surprised because they know the $h*t they are pulling. The American public needs to pay more attention to what our gov't does if we want to prevent future WTC episodes.

If we don't, I can assure you, we will have a lot more of those episodes in the coming years. In fact, Bush's policies all but assure that we will.

You were doing fine with some of your points;


I feel like I am being graded. My intent was not to get an A or to convince you but rather to explain my POV.

however,
we disagree here. I don't think we were to blame for 9/11.
You imply that, not only do we have culpability for it,
but that we are the precipitators of terrorism.


Not at all......I am simply responding to those who think we have no culpability. 9/11 didn't happen out of thin air......there was misbehavior on our part that contributed to the tragedy happening.

But we also can never forget that OBL is a religious ideologue....meaning he's a bit of a nutcase. With nutcases, it takes very little to provoke them.

These folks hate us, and it transcends the Holy Land or
twisted notions of who has the right to do what.


Why do YOU think they hate us?

People who commit acts like 9/11 place themselves outside
consideration of any purported justification for their
conduct. Period.


Because you say so? I don't think so. The world doesn't have to play by our rules.

Perhaps if we spent more time being outraged
by their behavior than falling into THEIR trap of
blaming ourselves for everything, we would be far more successful in abating terrorism.


There have been tons and tons of people outraged by 9/11 How successful have we been to date in Iraq? Have we caught OBL yet in Afghanistan? It looks to me like you're grasping at straws. Outrage doesn't lead to success; intelligent and well planned maneuvering does. You're an attorney; you should know that.

Unfortunately, the terrorists know that they can tap into
exactly the kind of sentiments you expressed. That's what makes them smart. They know how to get to us in the court
of American public opinion, and that's what they rely on.


Bull. You give them way too much power. We have done this to ourselves. We went into Iraq like a bull in a china closet. We didn't know jack what to do after Saddam fell. For a year, there were militias all over the country and we couldn't decide whether to disarm them or not. Now they fight us.

And before all that, there was a country fairly well divided about invading Iraq in the first place. Poll after poll showed that the American public at a minimum wanted to go in under the UN flag. Bush didn't so he did it his way. You can't play that game in a democracy. Bush walked right into a trap and now al Qaeda is using it. We are our own worse enemy.

I fully understand their mentality in that regard.
Do you?


I understand them completely...........they are only as strong as we are stupid.