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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (575536)5/14/2004 7:16:10 PM
From: Andy Thomas  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
--It allows you to easily chart several recent administrations on a variety of common economic stats... --

those stats are useless...



To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (575536)5/15/2004 11:04:43 AM
From: Knighty Tin  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
Buddy, thx. My assertions are based upon real results, but there are problems with all such stats. Here are a few of them: 1. When do you start? The Democrats have been around longer than the Republicans and both parties have greatly changed character since all Republicans became crooks in the 1920s and nearly all Democrats stopped being bigots in the 1960s. 2. There are 8 year terms and 4 year terms. For example, fewer Americans were killed by terrorists under Clinton than under any President since just before Crazy Ronnie in 1980. But who was the worst? The Bushes seem to be the best at getting Americans killed by terrorists, but Reagan and Clinton had 8 year and, hopefully, the Bushes will only have 8 years between them.
3. The reported economic numbers are phony. They started being "revised" under Reagan to support his mess, but Clinton was as Republican as anyone in the way he faked the numbers. Many of us pounded on him for that, as the real numbers were good enough. Why gild the lily? CPI, GDP, job creation, etc. are calculated in a way no other nation on Earth calculates them. Comparing US Gdp to European or Asian countries is not just apples and oranges, it is apples and skateboards. No correlation. Ditto for comparing to earlier years in the US. 4. The stock market results have to be inflation adjusted. Otherwise, Carter and Reagan, two economic idiots, come out looking real good on that measure. Even Ford looks good.

So, it's fun to quote stats, but "Lying With Statistics" is still a vital book 30 years after its publication.



To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (575536)5/15/2004 11:12:31 AM
From: Knighty Tin  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
Buddy, the dropdown menu was great, but I'd like to see them go back Hoover, the President Bush most resembles.



To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (575536)5/15/2004 11:16:59 AM
From: Kenneth E. Phillipps  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
Thanks Buddy, Biggest Deficit spenders since WW2 are (1) Reagan - more than 4% of GDP; (2) Bush 1 - also more than 4% of GDP; (3) Bush 2 - more than 3% of GDP; (4) Nixon - almost 2% of GDP. Smallest Deficit Spenders were (1) Eisenhower; (2) Clinton; (3) Kennedy and (4) Johnson.

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