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To: cosmicforce who wrote (10961)	5/20/2004 12:22:14 AM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20773

Yet again, another example of what I have been describing as "critical support" (and Karl Rove calls RatF*cking). Maybe I need to look for a catchier phrase. Creating unrealistic goals is another way to create the chaos. Chaos invites change. The neocons find change to be a place where they have an opportunity to put their own dedicated workers in influential positions. While the neocons have had small sucess, like taking over the NRA from the hunters and sportsmen, their big plans have consistently failed. Iran/Contra ended up with a stronger Iran and the Sandinistas in control of Nicaragua. Iraq is a mess! The idea of trying to slip in under cover of chaos has meant one disaster after another. I hope people wise up to the neocon chaos tactic. None of these crisis have been a real threat. TP

To: cosmicforce who wrote (10961)	5/20/2004 4:50:12 PM
From: Ron	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20773

Hastert Lectures McCain on War, Sacrifice By MARY DALRYMPLE, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON - Growing tensions between House and Senate Republicans over the war in Iraq , abuse of Iraqi prisoners, tax cuts and budget deficits erupted Wednesday with House Speaker Dennis Hastert lecturing former POW and Arizona Sen. John McCain about sacrifice and war. McCain, who spent five years in a North Vietnamese prison, excoriated fellow Republicans on Tuesday for pushing more tax cuts while U.S. troops are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan (news - web sites). "Throughout our history, wartime has been a time of sacrifice. ... What have we sacrificed?" McCain said. "As mind-boggling as expanding Medicare has been, nothing tops my confusion for cutting taxes during wartime. I don't remember ever in the history of warfare when we cut taxes." Asked Wednesday about McCain's remarks, Hastert, who was rejected for military service because of a bad shoulder, first joked: "Who? Where's he from? A Republican?" Then, more seriously, he said: "If you want to see sacrifice, John McCain ought to visit our young men and women at Walter Reed and Bethesda (two Washington area military hospitals). There's the sacrifice in this country. We're trying to make sure that they have the ability to fight this war, that they have the wherewithal to be able to do it. And at the same time, we have to react to keep this country strong not only militarily but economically. We want to be able to have the flexibility to do it. That's my reply to John McCain." McCain stood fast in his reply to Hastert. "The speaker is correct in that nothing we are called upon to do comes close to matching the heroism of our troops," he said. "All we're called upon to do is not spend our nation into bankruptcy while our soldiers risk their lives. I fondly remember a time when real Republicans stood for fiscal responsibility." The conflict erupted as Hastert laid down a budget making it easier to pass future tax cuts regardless of their impact on the federal deficit. McCain and a group of GOP moderates in the Senate want to rein in deficits by making tax cuts harder. Later, Hastert spokesman John Feehery said the speaker "values Sen. McCain's military service, but he disagrees with him on tax relief." news.yahoo.com __