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To: JohnM who wrote (46789)5/25/2004 11:39:21 AM
From: unclewest  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793966
 
the importance of taking the moral high ground

Is there morale high ground in war? I am surprised you think so.

I know for certain every combatants' morality gets nicked in close combat.

Perhaps those watching from the sidelines, see morality somewhere in war. I don't.

A purely intellectual discussion of the rules of war and Geneva Conventions is difficult for me. The very best cops know the law, possess a lot of street smarts, have much experience, and know how to best apply the law in a variety of situations. That does not mean they will not make a mistake and certainly does not mean rookies will not err. It also does not mean that everybody will be treated exactly the same regardless of the circumstances.

We are not talking about wise old professors who never made a mistake in a classroom. We are talking about soldiers who are fighting for their lives. Morality often gets pushed aside when your life is at stake. Is there any really good and kind way to kill people with guns, grenades, bayonets and explosives before they kill you?

BTW, you misunderstood the tone of my previous post. I am having a happy go lucky day today.
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To: JohnM who wrote (46789)5/25/2004 12:18:37 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793966
 
Question: was the torture used at the Iraqi prison a violation of the Geneva Conventions?

That's the second question, John. The first question is, "were the prisoners at the Iraqi prison subject to the Geneva Convention?" From the looks of things, they were "armed combatants," not in uniform. And were not. Does that justify the nonsense done to them? No. But it changes the frame of the questions.