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To: carranza2 who wrote (134387)5/25/2004 4:24:30 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
<Freedom is viral, give it a chance and it will flower anywhere, infect anything. People want to be free. I don't know if it has been ever subjected to any rigorous analysis in terms of its place in the hierarchy of needs, but I would say it is up there, right close to food and drink.>

Hi C2. I'm glad you liked my post. Actually, I thought it was a bit incoherent.

I was trying to get across the opposite idea from what you said. People quite like the absence of freedom and are comfortable with it. They respond to the strong hierarchy, alpha male, rules and so on. It's as though it gives them a feeling of belonging - being ordered around makes them feel somebody cares. Often people love being in the army, for example.

But there's a dichotomy in the human mind. We want the security and belonging, but also freedom, simultaneously. But different people want different amounts of each. It amazes me how much lack of freedom people seek with their votes. On the other hand, they want freedom to do what they want.

My point was that military action can take over a culture and then cultural morphing can happen. Another example was India, which was huge but became part of the British Empire, with substantial cultural adoption of British ways [laws, language, politics etc]. When they kicked the British out, they kept the cultural norms they liked [unfortunately for them, including socialism].

On the 100 year plan, I suspect we are going to go in the opposite direction to freedom, which would conflict with my personal cultural norm. But, as you say, we'll be dead. The new people will accept the new way. I suspect humans will have limited freedom and It will rule the world. Big government seems not yet to have reached its zenith.

With genetic engineering, I think 100 years from now, humans will have also morphed a longggg way. Average IQs around 160 will make a difference for a start. The amygdala will be more under control of the executive frontal lobe.

Mqurice