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Politics : Piffer Thread on Political Rantings and Ravings -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: lorne who wrote (13792)	5/26/2004 8:17:13 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 14610

You said...." Because you were voicing opinions about the US and criticizing my patriotism as if you were a citizen of the US. When someone takes such a strong position, then I want to know to whom I am talking. Your spelling told me you were not American so to tell me I am disloyal to my country was insulting. I would not begin to evaluate the quality of your Canadian citizenship by what you say on this forum."..... Am I not allowed to voice opinions about the USA? positive and favourable opinions I might add. You can opine all you want but what you did to me was pass judgment when you know very little about me. I was objecting to such a judgment call. You said...." You said I was unpatriotic.........that's considered name calling in the States."..... I never said you were disloyal nor did I criticize you patriotism. What I did say was this....." You don't like President Bush, You appear not to like America much,"...... Message 20168370 And this...." So not only do you not like President Bush it appears you also do not like America.".... Message 20166045 Yes, you said it twice.......did you feel the need for emphasis? However, where you suggested I was disloyal to my country is where you said that it "sounds like you are defending our enemies islam terrorists". There's that 'we' again. From what I was reading from you it appeared to me that you didn't like America much. One post and you come to that conclusion? I guess some Canadians really jump to conclusions quickly. Things like this...." You said...." So what? The Muslim terrorists believe they are fighting the good fight against an evil invader. They have suffered for two hundred years under the western colonists. The US is just one more of them......a newer version with grander ideas.......but no less an imperialist. "..... Can you understand why it might appear to me that you don't like America much? Why does disagreeing with the policies of the current gov't indicate that I don't like America? Do you ever not agree with your gov't? If so, do other Canadians determine that you don't like Canada? Also I did wonder if you were American after this statement. Why? You said...." So, you now agree that Saddam's attack on Iran was not for religious reasons; that he was secular; that he did not have a relationship with a religious ideologue like OBL and therefore, Bush's reasoning on this issue of an al Qaeda connection was flawed?".... No of course not. How in the world did you ever come to that conclusion? Because in answer to my repeated question, you said: "And again I tell you you have already answered that question.......to expand his territory I think you said." That statement suggests that you no longer think religion played a role in Saddam's expansion plans.........or did I misunderstand you. If I did, what do you think now? Message 20168370 Here AGAIN is the question I asked you that apparently has you so confused......" Do you think that sadam being sunni had anything to do with the hostilities with the shia controlled Iran? and if it did then this was a religious problem. Correct?"..... Message 20166045; Interesting how you twist and turn! My answer, of course, is no. And again I ask of you.........do you think Saddam invaded Kuwait over religious issues? You still have not answered this question...it's not a tough question or a trick question so why not just give an answer so we don't have to go here again and you will no longer be confused. I just answered again. Look, I don't really know why sadam attacked Iran that's why I asked the question. If you don't know that's ok just say so and that will be 2 of us that don't know. Just don't make things up, to easy to get caught up. Huh? LOL. At what do you think you caught me? And I do not agree that sadam was/is secular. You did not indicate if you are talking about his government or his personal life. I was actually talking about his sex life! NOT! Like I said previously, his gov't was secular, and not an Islamic theocracy. That's what I meant when I said his gov't was secular. Anyway did you happen to watch the interview that Larry King had with Dan Rather just before the war in Iraq. Rather had a face to face interview with sadam and during that interview,,,according to Rather....sadam said he had to leave for a while for evening prayers. He left and then returned. And our presidents go to church on Sundays.......that does not mean the US gov't is a theocracy. You may also have heard about sadam having the entire koran written in his own blood. Sounds to me that he is a tad religious. I guess its convinced you.....although it does nothing for me. You said...." Bush's reasoning on this issue of an al Qaeda connection was flawed?"..... I don't know if his reasoning was flawed but it sure appears as though the intelligence he was getting was flawed. You said...." Like I said, appearances can be deceiving on a forum like this one. So why are you so quick to make judgement?"..... I wasn't making a judgement. Look again, there was a question mark at the end of the statement you are referring to. ......" Lets see if I got this right...You don't like President Bush, You appear not to like America much, You mistrust people who seem positive all the time and you appear to not like Canadians...or is it just me?"..... You said....." You're Canadian and not bilingual. How old are you?"...... You likely didn't know this but not everyone in Canada is bilingual.and I'm one of them that's not. How old am I. gees would you like a blood test as well? You said....." Man, you don't quit.......now my English and reading comprehension is lacking. "..... Yes I know and that's why I suggested you pay closer attention. Then we could get through these little chats a lot quicker. :-) Trust me, I'm a quick read. You can cut down your words and I most likely will get it. If I don't, I will ask a question. ;~)