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To: quehubo who wrote (135013)5/30/2004 8:11:05 PM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hi quehubo; Re: "You were not in the all volunteer military. I was fortunate to see what Reagan did with the military when he was elected because the 1970's left the military is sad shape. Dazed and confused and without direction."

This is hilarious. One moment you're talking about how we should expand the military in order to take over Saudi Arabia's oil production, and in the other you admit that the draft military was "confused and without direction".

If we bring back the draft, we will bring back the confusion. A draft drags a lot of people who don't want to be in the military into a position where that they don't want to be in. The result is not pretty, and would not be as effective the military we already have.

Since the military we already have has proven itself to be incapable of pacifying Iraq, any draftee military would be worse at pacifying Saudi Arabia (the home of the shrines of Islam). The resulting guerilla war would be woefully stacked against us.

It's a good thing that no one would sign up to help us, and that our leaders couldn't make a mistake that bad right after the Iraq fiasco.

-- Carl



To: quehubo who wrote (135013)6/1/2004 5:51:22 PM
From: cnyndwllr  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
So I am sorry you and Canyon Dweller have your judgement tarnished by a poor experience in the military..

In the spirit of reciprocity, I want you to know that I am happy that you never had your eyes opened by the experience of being a combat soldier serving at the direction of civilian and military leaders who were generally inept, unethical and who would have valued your life for it's strategic and political importance only.

And don't tell me "say it ain't so this time." It's almost always that way and if you've been paying attention to the big and the little screwups in Iraq, and the lies that those responsible for those screwups are covering them with, you won't need to ask for proof.

So I'm glad that you enjoyed and prospered from your 6 years in the Navy, but don't presume to understand the difference between serving in peacetime at the whim of men with the power to choose your job and your location, versus serving in wartime at the whim of men with the power to send you to your death for reasons which they'd deem insufficient if it was them or their kids who were facing death.

With respect to the oil crisis, if it's as dire as you believe it to be, and I agree that it is, then why aren't we looking for ways to alleviate the crisis that don't solely rely upon securing control of the light, sweet and readily accessible oil reserves that belong to SOMEONE ELSE?