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To: Sarmad Y. Hermiz who wrote (135026)	5/31/2004 12:20:28 AM
From: dumbmoney	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

There is no contradiction between freedom and conscription. There's a big contradiction - conscription is a form of slavery, which is the opposite of freedom. In fact sharing the sacrifice of military service will encourage the debate of whether a war is justified, and may stop some wars from taking place. I think the empirical evidence is on the other side, i.e. drafts enable war. The sacrifice isn't shared, either; drafts generally target a narrow slice of the population (e.g. young men). I am much more worried about a group like the current admin hijacking the military for their own purpose, and the rest of the country not having an incentive to stop them early on. That's a problem, but I think a bigger problem is informational. War propaganda is powerful stuff, and not many people can resist it.

To: Sarmad Y. Hermiz who wrote (135026)	5/31/2004 4:59:58 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<There is no contradiction between freedom and conscription.> Sarmad, freedom means individuals decide for themselves, using that free will process, what they will do with their own body, provided they don't damage other people or their property or freedoms. Conscription means somebody else tells you to do what they want you to do and if you don't do what they say, they will gaol you or otherwise attack you or punish you. Specifically, they want you to sacrifice your actual life, to the extent that you might end up actually dead. Dead is definitely not freedom to exert one's will. There is a complete contradiction between conscription and freedom. Mqurice