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To: Sarmad Y. Hermiz who wrote (135064)	5/31/2004 9:33:11 AM
From: quehubo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Sarmad - Were you drafted into the Vietnam War? Do you think the country would be forced to see things your way if there was a draft? Would they all come to your belief that we are just wasting lives and money to protect Israel? I agree that there are many merits to a draft or some form of forced national service. But I think a cheaper and more effective method would be to raise compensation levels as required to attract and retain the required personnel. Most Americans dont even know where Israel is on the globe. But they know their incomes and our way of life is dependent on a stable flow of oil from the Persian Gulf. Many Americans have been to the Persian Gulf over the last 20 years. Many Americans a very aware that having Islamofascists in control of oil producing areas would be something quite devastating to the USA and the world. But for you it is simple, the problem is Israel and not hundreds of millions of Muslims who blame Israel and the West for their inability to lead themselves out of poverty and desperation.

To: Sarmad Y. Hermiz who wrote (135064)	5/31/2004 10:48:28 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

I don't think a person can consider himself a full citizen if he/she did not share the risk of defending his country. How about when they seek to undermine those WHO ARE defending this country by trying to cast doubt about their mission and the cause for which they fight? How about someone who would willfully choose to support totalitarian regimes engaged in acts of aggression against a democratic government? You might be a citizen of the US Sarmad, but I seriously doubt your personal commitment to the ideals for which it stands, the most important of which is to defend the principles of its constitution on behalf of not only Americans, but also every person alive on this planet. Because the US will always be an adversary of any government that refuses to be accountable to its own citizens and be subservient to the will of the majority of its people. What you need to learn, IMO, is that even if you disagree with the policies of this nation, you have an obligation to support them and ensure that this nation is victorious over totalitarian ideals which threaten it. Because regardless of whether you approve of the means related to how US foreign policy is implemented, all American have an obligation to honor the fact that we're ultimately engaged in trying to bring democracy to people who've never known it. You cannot serve two masters Sarmad.. Democracy and Totalitarianism are mortal enemies and always will be. Hawk