To: sea_urchin who wrote (6789 ) 5/31/2004 8:45:41 PM From: Rock_nj Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039 the U.S. has a pact to defend Taiwan and would want to send a message to Taiwan about not messing with the U.SSurely you mean a "message to China"? Yes, I did mean China. Thanks for catching that.Yes, that's from the old days when China was really communist and Taiwan was anti-communist. Today, I wonder whether the US would honor that agreement particularly when there isn't much for it to gain either way. As you said, "Money talks, BS walks!" True, our economic interests are so intertwined that it could get in the way of a military conflict between China and the U.S. You know, Taiwan and China probably don't have economic systems that are all too different anymore. I mean, a capitalist country naturally includes socialism to some degree or another in it's economy. And, we all know that China has embraced capitalism and is hardly a hardcore communist country anymore. A dictatorship, yes it is. That is the main difference between the two countries now, one is democractic and the other is a dictatorship. It's actually nationalistic politics that is causing China to threaten Taiwan. It's a national pride thing and a way of keeping the people feeling good. They took back Hong Kong and parts of Western China that were semi-autonomous, now all they need is Taiwan to unify greater China. That's what's really behind the movement. I've read 2005 as the year that China will make a move to take Taiwan back. Certainly that might be the next world crisis after Iraq. The U.S. military and their suppliers would benefit from such a war Then it's worth considering --- but only if the US can arm both sides! Oh how right you are Searle. I like the way you think! You know a lot more about how the U.S. really operates than most rosey-eyed Americans. That is the modius operandi of the U.S. defense industry. Why only make half the money you can make on a war, when you can make more by arming both sides. That has happened a number of times. David Rockerfeller's companies were apparently sending raw materials to North Viet Nam, via the Soviet block during the Viet Nam conflict. While, of course the U.S. was arming and fighting along side the South Vietnamese. The same was true of the Gulf War in 1991. The U.S. was the main supplier of weapons to Saddam Huessein in the 1980s, and then we used more of our weapons to destroy his war machine that we helped create. There are other examples in which the U.S. armed both sides of a conflict. A number of civil wars and regional wars in Africa had U.S. weapons being used against each other. It's a typical ploy of the American military establishment. In fact, I've heard rumors that that's exactly what's going on in Iraq today. That there are weapons bizarres in Iraq where the "insurgents" are buying U.S. made weapons to use against U.S. troops. Wouldn't surprise me. The weapons industry is one of the biggest money making rackets in the world. Arms merchants really don't care who they sell their wares to, they just want to profit.