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To: Sarmad Y. Hermiz who wrote (135445)6/3/2004 10:04:05 AM
From: Hawkmoon  Respond to of 281500
 
Should I dredge up Begin's terrorist bombing of the King David Hotel ? That preceded the Palestinian resistance.

Only if I get to dredge up the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Al-Husseini's collaboration with Hitler's regime during WWII:

mideastnewswire.com

Interviewer: “I have heard voices from within the [Palestinian] Authority in the past few weeks, saying that the reforms are coordinated according to American whims…”

Arafat: “We are not Afghanistan…We are the Mighty People. Were they able to replace our hero Hajj Amin al-Husseini? ... There were a number of attempts to get rid of Hajj Amin, whom they considered an ally of the Nazis. But even so, he lived in Cairo, and participated in the 1948 war, and I was one of his troops.”

[Al Sharq al Awsat, a London Arabic daily, reprinted in the Palestinian daily Al Quds, Aug, 2, 2002]


So Arafat was one of Al-Husseini's "troops", dedicated to creating a "final solution" for the Jews living in the Mid-East..

Is it any wonder that Mein Kampf is still such a hot seller amongst Arabs?

Hawk



To: Sarmad Y. Hermiz who wrote (135445)6/3/2004 1:22:06 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Israel/Palestine isn't some junior college debate topic. It is, as you are well aware, a serious topic with serious consequences for the world at large.

I recently read an essay about the "Arab mind" -- there was a book by that title which apparently has been quite popular among people trying to understand Israel/Palestine. One conclusion, which we see repeated frequently by people who support the Sharon government, is that "Arabs only understand and respect force."

I have no respect for that type of generalization, and very little respect for people who make that type of generalization, because it's just too self-serving as a justification for atrocious behavior.

But I do agree that force should be met with force.

On the other hand, as someone on this thread (Kumar) likes to say, "an eye for an eye makes the world go blind."

Yet, again, I can't ask anyone to tolerate armed gunmen walking up to children and shooting them in the head. That must be stopped, with force if need be, and there appears to be no other solution.

It's a mess.

Americans are willing to help, but you have to have intelligent suggestions. Arming both sides isn't an option.



To: Sarmad Y. Hermiz who wrote (135445)6/3/2004 1:31:06 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Respond to of 281500
 
These were no-existant prior to the Israeli terrorist organizations. Should I dredge up Begin's terrorist bombing of the King David Hotel ? That preceded the Palestinian resistance.


Like hell it did. Every heard of the Grand Mufti, Haj Amin al Husseini, or his fighters and their methods? Arafat's terrorists inherited the same methods: ambush, random terrorism, and consolidating power through assassination - the Mufti did it all before him. The Mufti lead the riots in 1920, 1929 and the Arab revolt in 1936 - 39, when the Brits finally threw him out. He joined his idol, Adolf Hitler, in Berlin for the duration of WWII and raised two divisions of Bosnian Muslims for the SS. And did his bit to help implement the Final Solution.