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To: sea_urchin who wrote (6891)6/5/2004 8:13:47 PM
From: Rock_nj  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039
 
I don't think they're particularily "bad people". I just think they have massive investments to protect and massive plans to increase their wealth, and often the measures they chose to do so are rather amoral. I mean, to set Saddam Huessein up to invade Kuwaitt, and then eject him from that country just to gain a firmer grip on the oil supplies is a pretty amoral thing to do. In their eyes it's justified (perhaps even morally) by the need to ensure an adquate supply of oil for the American economy and to protect their assets in the all-important Middle Eestern oil fields. So be it, morality is often in the eyes of the beholder. The only thing that really counts in this world is wealth and power.

I don't think the Bilderbergers get together to talk about the latest techniques of winning at golf or where's the best place to vacation these days. I think it's a lot more serious than that. They're probably discussing the thawing of relations between the Koreas, the prospects of China attacking Taiwan, how best to approach the new Quadafi in Lybia, the state of affairs in Iraq and how best to settle it and secure the oil, world trade, Al Queda, perhaps more mundane issue like social benefits in various countries and how to keep them in check. I imagine there are different conferences going on at the meeting as well. Some for the real high rollers, and some just to entertain some of the ones there as a social function.



To: sea_urchin who wrote (6891)6/7/2004 4:38:23 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039
 
Re: Indeed, there is no common pattern I can detect amongst them all. Not political power, corporate power, wealth, race, religion, nothing I can find. In the circumstances I ask, what has such a heterogeneous group in common with each other that inspires them to connive and conspire in secret? And against the laws of each country.

"NO common pattern?!" LOL... Check again! There's only one black guy: Vernon Jordan, Clinton's pal and just because a coupla Turks and one Chinese guy were invited doesn't turn Bilderberg into some globaloney melting pot. They just don't give a hoot about Africa, Latin America, and Asia --that is, they don't care about the PEOPLE living in those areas while, obviously, they do care about the (energy, mineral,...) RESOURCES of Africa, the Mideast,...

Now, don't get me wrong: I don't brand Bilderberg as some evil, mafia-like outfit that plots the ruin of colored people and working poors worldwide... Yet, the fact is that Bilderberg's main concern is the well-being of the 10-15 million people in Europe and North America who work for US/EU transnationals and their direct suppliers/subcontractors. Hence if you're a "lucky white/blue-collar" working for Barclay's bank, Ford Motor, Volkswagen, Gruppo Fiat, Suez, Axa insurance, Banco Bilbao Viscaya, etc. then Bilderberg is fine for you --they're working hard making sure you'll keep your job until their next meeting....

Actually, the irony of Bilderberg and other, similar semi-secretive outfits is that they unwittingly debunk the myth of a global, free-market capitalism! Indeed, industrial moguls and financiers are not supposed to meet and negotiate in a FREE-MARKET CAPITALIST ECONOMY! They're supposed --heck, they are cracked up-- to be relentless, merciless CONTENDERS --not partners carving up the world market like mafia bosses!

Well, as I said several years ago, global capitalism is actually morphing into its alleged Nemesis, Communism... The M&A frenzy of the 1990s have turned most industrial and service sectors into competition-free oligopolies --just like in the former USSR where there was only one car maker, one bank, one brewer, etc... The German car maker Volkswagen AG now owns a portfolio of a dozen --previously independent-- brands: VW, Audi, Rolls-Royce, Mini Morris, Bugatti, Seat, Skoda,... Same with the media/newspapers: hundreds of different brands but only one boss --Berlusconi in Italy, Murdoch in the UK, the Mohn family in Germany, Lagardère or Dassault in France, etc. Furthermore, Soviet apparatchiks --the middle class-- didn't own anything... Private property was a no-no. Likewise, more and more middle-class workers in the West don't own their cars --it's a company car. Take Belgium for instance: one out of two new cars sold in the country is in fact a company car, and the rate for German luxury cars is even higher: 77% of all BMWs sold in Belgium in 2002 were "company cars"... Same thing with real estate, vacations, restaurants, etc. More and more amenities of our way of life is being "collectivized" and embedded into a package that includes our remuneration, perks, free access to the company (the capitalist equivalent of "the Party")'s leisure facilities, etc.

Welcome to the New Brave Technocratic World! (*)

Gus

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