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To: Sarmad Y. Hermiz who wrote (135842)	6/6/2004 6:46:58 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I think the answer to reconciling your view on this, and the opposite view of this, lies in how one views the words "try not to." While I realize, post Clinton, that looking into the meaning of words is very suspect, it still provides valuable clues to the thought process of the person using the words. When a person says "the US tries not to kill civilians" what that person might mean is that the US does not have the killing of civilians uppermost in its collective mind as it storms into their country and accidentally kills them in droves. Each and every dead civilian can rest calmly for eternity knowing that their demise was not the mission of the US, but simply an accidental bi-product. I am sure the dead rest much more easily knowing that their death was simply a mistake, rather than something personal and intentional, don't you? :-) I joke gently with you about this, for even though it is a sad thing, there is always humor in the human condition, and the way those stuck in the human condition flounder about.

To: Sarmad Y. Hermiz who wrote (135842)	6/6/2004 6:52:46 PM
From: Ish	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<<There was a reason I asked you how you arrived at your statement that adherents of the Jewish religion expect to live with God after they die. Your answer was that you read the whole Bible.>> You must have missed my reply. It has to do with the Covenant between God and his chosen people. <<How many civilians did Osama Bin Laden kill in the US ? How many civilians did the US kill in Afghanistan ? I know you don't like to look things up. So I'll answer. 2200 in the US. 6000 in Afghanistan. How does that support your statement of "See, we in the US try not to kill civilians." ?>> There were over 3000 killed in the Twin Towers alone. You want to crab about civilians, one US sub could have sterilized everything from Israel to Packistan. Didn't take that route, lost our people taking the hard route saving people.