To: philv who wrote (21118 ) 6/9/2004 4:30:38 PM From: sea_urchin Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 81528 Phil > things are not all that rosy and happy in Northern Iraq The US certainly opened a Pandora's Box with the Kurds. And the problem goes back a long way too. hartford-hwp.com This is what the place looked like before the Ottoman Empire gobbled up "Kurdistan" and before Britain/France cut up the Ottoman Empire into the pieces we see today.akakurdistan.com I agree with the article you posted: >>The United States has let loose a Kurdish "monster", not only on Iraq itself, but also on the region at large, a "monster" which cannot easily be put back into the box. If a diplomatic solution cannot be crafted that satisfies all of Iraq's three factions, and it is doubtful that one can, then a great deal of military muscle will be needed in the entire region to keep the disenfranchised Kurds "in check". And that muscle will have to come increasingly into play in northern Iraq, Turkey, Syria, Iran, Armenia and Azerbaijan. In the end, the handover of sovereignty on June 30 may not change anything, except that it may well accelerate Iraq's descent into sectarian violence, with Turkey and Syria cooperating militarily to secure their interests in northern Iraq by taking control of that region, and the southern regions of Iraq moving significantly closer into cooperation with Iran, with the US military caught in the middle. The relative calmness of northern Iraq is very likely to be much like the calmness of a large bomb - its calmness very deceptively masks the huge explosion which is likely imminent. << And things are definitely not so rosy in Southern Iraq.jihadunspun.net ; Of course, I believe that protracted war and turmoil in the region is what the neocons had in mind all the time when they prevailed on W to oust Saddam. Saddam was the linch pin that kept it all together and, despite of all the blah about bringing democracy, the US must have foreseen the real consequences of removing him. No-one should forget what the "Promised Land" actually looks like. This is the vision that drives the neocons.alfredlilienthal.com