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To: JBTFD who wrote (581816)	6/10/2004 2:15:12 PM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

"One example that is interpreted by many as "bending the law" is the constitutionality of the patriot act. " Who passed the Patriot Act? Clue: It was not Ashcroft. Acts of the Congress are presumed to be Constitutional until the Supreme Court decides otherwise. Another is the new definition of terrorists such that they are denied any of the previously guaranteed constitutional rights afforded one who has been arrested in our country, such as the right to an attorney and the right to know what crime you are being charged with. The definition of enemy combatant and the unavailability of that person so designated by the Commander in Chief (our President) has not changed.....this was and has been the law of the land..... Try again....

To: JBTFD who wrote (581816)	6/10/2004 2:19:42 PM
From: Srexley	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

"One example that is interpreted by many as "bending the law" is the constitutionality of the patriot act" Congress voted for it overwhelmingly. If you don't like hypocrits (which I think you have clained), you should be mighty ticked at the dems that voted for it, and now oppose it. All for political reasons imo. And if many people interpret that Ashcroft is "bending the law" by following the legal patriot act, then I will state the obivous and say that those same people are either dumb or dishonest. If you really hate the patriot act, and feel it does more harm than good, then take it out on the elected officials that voted for it. Make sense? "Another is the new definition of terrorists" I don't think there is a new "definition" of terrorist. JF thinks of himself a bit of an expert in the definition of terrorist, so you may want to check with him. "previously guaranteed constitutional rights afforded one who has been arrested in our country" I think the "guaranteed constitutional rights" are for U.S. citizen. The ONE example you are most likely referring it Jose Padilla, who is a U.S. citizen arrested on our soil. It is in the courts, and probably you guys will win this. I am comfortable with citizens getting our "guaranteed constitutional rights" if arrested here. We'll see what happens. Padilla did admit to being a terrorist, but still probably will get his day in court.