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To: Rock_nj who wrote (136509)	6/13/2004 5:49:48 PM
From: KLP	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Providing for the Common Defense is the ONLY job for the Government as laid out in the US Constitution. However, remember, during the Clinton years, the budgets for the CIA, FBI, AND the Military were cut by at least 25%. Read some History. Watch History Channel. Watch War Stories. Eventually, you'll find there are many things you can still learn.

To: Rock_nj who wrote (136509)	6/13/2004 11:45:46 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Respond to of 281500

I also know that our defenses failed misserably on 9/11 and that we have troops stationed all over the damn world. We should make sure we have our own country defended before we go sticking our noses in other country's business. Ever hear about the Japanese Balloon bombs that were sent in the tran-pacific air currents during WWII? They only managed to kill seven Americans, and start a few fires.. But the real concern was that the Japanese were steadily working on biological weapons and planned to use those balloon bombs to deliver them. freerepublic.com In December 1944, Japan started a balloon assault on the U.S. by sending about 200 balloon bombs, but not germ bombs, to the west coast, each 30 feet in diameter and 91 feet round. They caused the deaths of 7 people. The person taking charge of the investigation of the balloons was none other than Murry Sanders, the man who was first sent to Japan to investigate Unit 731. Forty years later, Sanders recalled: The only explanation I had, and still have, is that Ishii wasn't ready to deliver what he was making in Pingfang; that he hadn't worked out the technology. If they had been, we were at Ishii's mercy. Moreover, Tojo had been the staunch supporter of Ishii and biological warfare. Dating back to his days as commander of Kempeitai of the Kuantung Army, Tojo was responsible for supplying Unit 731 with live experiment victims. Upon assumming premiereship in October 1941, Tojo personally presented an award to Ishii for his contribution to developing biological weapons and had a picture taken with him, which appeared in major newspapers. Unfortunately Tojo's responsibility for making biological weapons and using them was not charged at the Tokyo Trial. If Tojo indeed was opposed to using biological assault on the U.S. as Kristof believes, he did it probably not out of fear of U.S. retaliation rather than Japan's inability to deliver biological weapons. Finally Kristof reports that one month before Japan surrendered, it still tried to send the "Kami kazi" suicide airplane with plague bombs carried by a submarine to attack San Diego on the west coast. Undoubtedly this is a piece of new information to fortify the belief that Japan on the eve of surrender still clung to a hope that the wheel of fortune might turn to its favor so as to escape the fate of unconditional surrender. The rest of Kristof s report was largely borrowed from the two books in question, which will be discussed in the ensuing pages. Now tell me what kind of defense the military could have put up against them? The only defense was to invade Japan and overthrow the ruling government and put a stop to such launchings. The same logic applies with regard to Terrorism. If you want to stop it, you have to aggressively target those leaders, governments, and wealthy/powerful people who are supporting them. You also have to target the economic and societal conditions that have led many muslims to even consider that suicide bombings and terrorist attacks against civilians are valid forms of warfare. And you're not going to win such a war sitting behind the Atlantic and Pacific oceans creating your own little "Fortress Amerika" (along with all the loss of personal freedoms involved). You don't win a war by permitting yourself to be placed on the defense and permitting the enemy to pick the time and place of his choosing for launching attacks. You win by going into HIS territory and making him defend his own operating area by attacking HIM at a time and place of OUR choosing. There's a damn good reason we haven't seen a major terrorist attack in the US for the past 2 years. And a good portion of that is because we've carried the battle to the enemy on our terms. Hawk