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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TimF who wrote (80694)	6/14/2004 3:52:50 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

"I wouldn't argue for a resumption of them but I think people should be free to make such an argument" Without any doubt. I just don't think such arguments would be convincing. "Also people can argue for the abolition of such laws or the creation of exceptions to such laws without actually arguing for such discriminatory practices" Again...I don't think anyone would wish to prohibit the right to argue anything whatsoever. "I am no supporter of such practices but I don't think they should be illegal in most cases." I don't know what particular practices you are referring to; but if you are speaking to the old practices of prohibiting women from voting or of disallowing certain persons to have and to hold property...or to any public distinction of rights and freedoms being made solely on the basis of race, colour, or suchlike...then we have a genuine disagreement.

To: TimF who wrote (80694)	6/14/2004 3:55:31 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

The issue in the aforementioned case had to do with freedom of conscience. Freedom of conscience is not the opposite of disrimination it is wholy enmeshed within the balance of freedoms. Any bigotry or prejudice that denies participation in society has no place. Likewise imposing the will of the group on one's freedom to live according to one's conscience has no place. It is a lovely balance between responsibility for the care of one's fellows and the freedom from oppression by one's fellows that we should seek. If you have no sense of balance you may crush your fellow citizen under oppressive laws requiring you to compromise your conscience in the service of others, or in the reverse extreme, do as you please without regard for the needs of others.