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To: tonto who wrote (16)	6/14/2004 9:20:59 PM
From: Augustus Gloop	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4965

I decided not to even respond. Why waste the time

To: tonto who wrote (16)	6/14/2004 9:25:33 PM
From: mph	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4965

Well, if he became employed between March and June, would that not indicate that the economy is improving???? Perhaps he followed up on the job leads provided by posters on the thread........<g>

To: tonto who wrote (16)	6/14/2004 10:13:09 PM
From: TopCat	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 4965

>>>Chinu forgets that what he wrote is the he was never unemployed.<<< tonto, While I believe it is wrong to lie (in most cases) on moral grounds, I believe there is also a more practical reason. You need to have a damn good memory. <g> Congratulations on this new thread. The title of it must be like a truth serum. So here is some true "stuff" about TopCat. I'm a conservative....(I guess). At least that is what those "test" you can take on the Internet keep telling me. But, I think there is a difference between being conservative and being a radical, hate mongering, right winger. I voted for Clinton the first time around so I'm either an idiot or I have other criteria for what I think leadership is all about. Another "for instance" is that, like Ann (I think), I was intrigued by Edwards. I saw in him (even though he is far from my philosophical ideal) a person that could re-energize the nation....much like I saw in Clinton the first time before I began to see in him a lack if integrity. Edwards would have presented a tough decision for me. A person that I believe would be good at leading the country through pure charisma vs. someone that I would be more aligned with philosophically. In my opinion, Presidents (as an individual) don't really have that much influence on the direction of the country....that's one of the hallmarks of our system (yes, there are exceptions to this). Some, however, can really inspire the people and that is what Reagan did (IMO) and what Kennedy did (IMO). What about Bush? I am aligned with this President philosophically, but he can't seem to put two words together on-his-feet without blowing it. To me, that makes him very ineffective as a leader. As far as what he has done WRT economy and the War on Terrorism is, again IMO, right on....and that includes invading Iraq. How sad that we all seem to forget that SH invaded a country and even without WMD (which I am still convinced will show up), he deserved what he got....even though it was 10 years late. What about Kerry? Kerry represents to me the worst of my two basic criteria. I am at odds with him philosophically and I think he doesn't show any kind of charismatic leadership that might shift me away from my conservative orientation. Now, tonto, you have stated that you will not vote for either candidate. That's too bad. Your reason is good but, practically speaking, you ain't going to change anything by not voting and your message will be lost in the noise. I hope you will reconsider. I will vote for Bush this time, not because I really want to, but because the alternative is a pretty sad representative for the nation and (sadly) the Democratic Party. TC

To: tonto who wrote (16)	6/14/2004 10:18:07 PM
From: tonto	Respond to of 4965

Chinu states that he has not been unemployed. Tonight he once again has lied to the posters on the John Kerry thread, this after having been caught as a liar and kicking people off the thread because they discussed it. Chinu, resign as moderator of the John Kerry thread. A moderator should be honest if one exists, but you are dishonest and a moderator only serves to eliminate people that know about you and AS. To:ChinuSFO who wrote (30342) From: tonto Saturday, Jun 12, 2004 12:22 PM View Replies (2) \| Respond to of 30883 Chinu, you have lied to all of us. you just wrote the following: tonto, I have not been unemployed. A large chunk of the American workforce has been unemployed. My neighbor has been unemployed, my grocer's wife has been unemployed and on and on. I am doing fine, thank you. siliconinvestor.com. To:H-Man who wrote (8176) From: ChinuSFO Thursday, Mar 18, 2004 1:04 PM View Replies (5) \| Respond to of 30359 number of laid-off workers seeking jobless benefits fell by 6,000 last week to 336,000, Yes, I am one of those who has stopped seeking jobless benefits because my benefits ran out and I still do not have a job besides just flipping hamburgers (Burger King is ready to hire me now). I am a software engineer. I am being offered a job in India though. If I take that then I will not figure any more in the Labor Department statistics. Message 20215783