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To: tonto who wrote (160)	6/16/2004 5:43:57 PM
From: Alan Smithee	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4965

That is great news. I wonder if that makes Kenneth happy? I doubt it. He will argue it is burger-flipping and retail jobs not worthy of noting. Orky has already made that point. Kenneth must be in a trial. He hasn't been around much lately.

To: tonto who wrote (160)	6/16/2004 5:56:25 PM
From: Alan Smithee	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4965

This commentary from John Leo pretty much sums up the current state of debate in this country (and on these threads). Worth a read. Let's keep arguing John Leo (back to web version) \| Send June 14, 2004 I gave an informal talk the other night and got a very odd reaction. I was speaking at a small dinner -- 16 people -- of a cultural group in New York. My topic was the sometimes demented culture of American universities. I talked about the repressive speech codes, stolen newspapers, canceled speakers, the de-funded Christian groups, the distortion of the curriculum by powerful diversity bureaucracies, and the indoctrination of students starting with freshman orientation and introductory writing courses. Nothing in my remarks would have come as a surprise to readers of this column, and it turned out that maybe two-thirds of the people at the dinner strongly agreed with my talk. But it shocked one man -- a former university president of some note -- who denounced my comments as "the most intellectually dishonest speech I have ever heard." I think he meant to say that he disagreed. Or maybe he thought I was attacking his old university. Nobody knows what he thought because he just repeated his "intellectually dishonest" remark and left, closing the door quickly behind him. This will stick in my mind as a good example of what has happened to debate in this country. Given a chance to speak his piece, the college president just got mad and got out. It never used to be this way. As many reporters reminded us last week, Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan fought sharply during the day but enjoyed having the occasional drink or two together after work. In the old days, William F. Buckley Jr. would hold public debates with all comers (I recall Arthur Schlesinger Jr. and Steve Allen), then go out to a pleasant dinner with his opponent. Nowadays, Buckley or his adversary would probably be required to take umbrage, hurl some insult, then stomp out in a snit. Complete Article at: townhall.com