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To: Mani1 who wrote (191059)	6/19/2004 10:49:03 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577191

RE:"I think I just stay home on November." That will be a big problem for Bush. He's POed a lot of the right. I'd hate to see Kerry win by default and there is a lot of anti-Bush vote out there that IS motivated.

To: Mani1 who wrote (191059)	6/20/2004 2:31:56 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1577191

It is time for true conservatives to stand up and not follow Bush so blindly. Bush's fiscal tax cut and spend (and spend some more) has been a disaster, being Vicente Fox's bich does not work for me and his divisive and cowboy style foreign policy approach has turn 9/11 sympathy to complete alienations and resentment. The strongest military, most financial resources, sympathy of the whole world and this is the best we could have done with it? Well said! Its absolutely stunning how badly this whole thing has gotten screwed up. It almost takes my breath away. Three things that worry me most: that Bush et al are unrepentant.......they insist they are right in the face of mounting evidence that they are not, and now, that they have been misunderstood and badly maligned by the press; that many of their followers are still treating this as a partisan issue when its much, much bigger and has much broader implications for this nation and its future; and that the moderate Muslims in the ME are not objecting to the increasingly dangerous violence in their own backyard and, in effect, are giving their tacit approval of the terrorists and their agenda. They are seeing the US get their comeuppance, and unfortunately, liking it....... In other words, the voices of reason on both sides have fallen silent. Its their abdication of responsibility in this mess that has me most worried. If they don't speak up.......and with vigor soon........I worry where this will end. While things are not good......more people are beginning to wake up to the problem......I just hope its not too late. And of course the only good thing about Kerry is that he is not Bush. I think I just stay home on November.* Mani, trust me when I tell you that I am not in love with Kerry but you can not stay home on election day! No one of reason can.......I believe its that serious! ted

To: Mani1 who wrote (191059)	6/20/2004 10:02:35 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1577191

Mani, Falling into the simplicity trap is exactly what they want. ... They want engagement in the most primitive ways, and we are giving it to them. They don't just want "engagement in the most primitive ways" for the sake of it. They want victory, and they're engaging us in the most primitive of ways not to make us respond in kind, but because they know we don't have the guts to. I'm not saying we should, though. If we can take the high road, we ought to. But let's not kid ourselves when it comes to figuring these terrorists out. That's exactly what leads us to half-assed efforts that only succeed in emboldening the enemy. Tenchusatsu