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To: American Spirit who wrote (9499)6/19/2004 11:26:38 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 90947
 
From Michael Moore's site debunking the debunkers.
michaelmoore.com

I walked into that bank in northern Michigan for the first time ever on that day in June 2001, and, with cameras rolling, gave the bank teller $1,000 – and opened up a 20-year CD account.

Here is a picture of the ad.

howdesign.com

the amount required to acquire this gun with a 20yr CD is $1,133.

you say...hey, that's only $133. But that is a 10% distortion and makes it obvious that he fabricated the scene.



To: American Spirit who wrote (9499)6/19/2004 11:32:08 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 90947
 
hardylaw.net

Lockheed-Martin and Nuclear Missiles. Bowling contains a sequence filmed at a Lockheed-Martin manufacturing facility near Columbine. Moore intones that the missiles with their "Pentagon payloads" are trucked through the town "in the middle of the night while the children are asleep." Moore asks whether knowledge that weapons of "mass destruction" were being built nearby might have motivated the Columbine shooters.

After Bowling was released someone checked and found that the Lockheed-Martin plant does not build weapons-type missiles; it makes rockets for launching satellites.

Moore's website has his response:

"[T]he Lockheed rockets now take satellites into outer space. Some of them are weather satellites, some are telecommunications satellites, and some are top secret Pentagon projects (like the ones that are launched as spy satellites and others which are used to direct the launching of the nuclear missiles should the USA ever decide to use them). "

Nice try, Mike.

(1) that some are spy satellites which might be "used to direct the launching" (i.e., because they spot nukes being launched at the United States) is hardly what Moore was suggesting. Quote:

"So you don't think our kids say to themselves, 'Dad goes off to the factory every day, he builds missiles of mass destruction. What's the difference between that mass destruction and the mass destruction over at Columbine High School?'"

(2) One of that plant's major projects was the ultimate in beating swords into plowshares: taking the Titan missiles which originally had carried nuclear warheads, and converting them to launch communications satellites and space exploration units.



To: American Spirit who wrote (9499)6/20/2004 1:37:39 AM
From: Lazarus_Long  Respond to of 90947
 
Remember what counts, electoral votes, not national vote polls.
So you finally learned that? D**n, sure took long enough!

Was 2000 the first time the winner of the popular vote lost in the electoral college?