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To: exdaytrader76 who wrote (585494)6/25/2004 9:33:43 PM
From: ManyMoose  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
Yes, indeed, and we are relying too heavily on reserves and National Guard. Not that they are poorly trained or unwilling, mind you, but that they have other lives and other jobs that languish while they are serving in country.

A volunteer force should be professional and act accordingly. If I'm not mistaken, all officers must swear to defend the constitution, NOT the administration or the government.

Do enlisted personnel have to take a similar oath?



To: exdaytrader76 who wrote (585494)6/25/2004 9:35:36 PM
From: Bearcatbob  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Frankly, I think there should be a universal service requirement. I think it would make policy making a more complicated issue. Everyone should share the burden.



To: exdaytrader76 who wrote (585494)6/26/2004 12:24:41 AM
From: Mana  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
The draft bill is HR 163; it's lurking in committee right now.
congress.gov


Why does it not surprise me that all the sponsors of the bill are socialists.


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H.R.163
Title: To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] (introduced 1/7/2003) Cosponsors (13)
Related Bills: S.89
Latest Major Action: 2/3/2003 House committee/subcommittee actions. Status: Executive Comment Requested from DOD.
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COSPONSORS(13), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]: (Sort: by date)
Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] - 1/7/2003 Rep Brown, Corrine [FL-3] - 1/28/2003
Rep Christensen, Donna M. [VI] - 5/19/2004 Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy [MO-1] - 1/28/2003
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14] - 1/7/2003 Rep Cummings, Elijah E. [MD-7] - 1/28/2003
Rep Hastings, Alcee L. [FL-23] - 1/28/2003 Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] - 1/28/2003
Rep Lewis, John [GA-5] - 1/7/2003 Rep McDermott, Jim [WA-7] - 1/7/2003
Rep Moran, James P. [VA-8] - 1/28/2003 Rep Stark, Fortney Pete [CA-13] - 1/7/2003
Rep Velazquez, Nydia M. [NY-12] - 1/28/2003
Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes [DC] - 1/28/2003(withdrawn - 6/21/2004)



To: exdaytrader76 who wrote (585494)6/26/2004 1:34:27 AM
From: Johannes Pilch  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
This minute, we don't exactly have a 100% volunteer Army because many soldiers coming off contract have been forced to remain in service against their will.

This does not sound correct to me. I admittedly do not know the law, but I am fairly sure there must be some contractual provision allowing for an extension of the service period. If the provision exists, then the additional service requirement is definitely NOT against the will of the servicemen, since they entered into the contract willingly. If the provision does not exist, then there is very likely an opportunity to make quite a nice chunk of change here.