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Politics : Fahrenheit 9/11: Michael Moore's Masterpiece -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Rock_nj who wrote (842)	6/28/2004 8:55:02 AM
From: Jill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 2772

I'm not sure I count myself as "left", more like a moderate with liberal leanings. But I basically agree with you. Even Michael Moore says he didn't vote in the last 2 elections, and that he's disgusted with the Democrats and how weak they are. My take on this is that the Democrats, being the lesser of two evils, just will never go as far as the Republicans in doing whatever is necessary by any means legal or illegal...I agree with techguerilla/John, I'm not that sanguine about our prospects in the next election. The country is very divided, its evenly split as the closeness of the last election showed, but I fear that Bush will edge out Kerry. Especially if the economy's #'s continue to look decent. But I'm hopeful this will not be the case, and I do think Democrats have a fighting chance. Let's see if Kerry starts making some news after he's formally nominated. Right now he's not doing much at all. I worry that he's just not outspoken enough.

To: Rock_nj who wrote (842)	6/28/2004 9:00:00 AM
From: JeffA	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 2772

Do you read your posts. You are so one sided that there is not one ounce of consideration that maybe, just maybe, the republican side has people who are republicans, not right wingers, not the religious right, not dittoheads. The Republican party does not merely consist of a propaganda machine, it is not all only lies, it is not only for the war. This type of talk is more guilty of causing the polarization of this country than any one candidate could be. You are guilty of swallowing the propaganda put out by your side of the aisle, that there are no middle of the road republicans. A vote for Bush is not a vote in support of the war or the Patriot Act. I abhor the Patriot Act. I think it guts the Constitution. It is almost reason enough to vote Bush out, all by itself. However, if the alternative is Kerry, forget it. However, I do not see that Kerry has anything to offer. He is a politician's politician. He is in good company with Clinton in that he is hard to pin down as to what exactly he is saying or what he supports. He is in my eyes, therefore not trustworthy. Yes I know and understand you think this about Bush. Fine. But in my eyes, the DNC has not chosed a stellar, clean, stand out candidate. They opted for a politician. You say the Bush admin uses Propagada. One thing that is iron clad and stands out above all others is that for propaganda, the DNC uses the Moore film and MoveOn.org. Those two reasons alone are reason enough to discredit and never trust the DNC as long as whoever allowed such hate groups in. If it is Mr MacCauliffe, then get rid of him. What we have here between us, is an honest disagreement. It does nto need to be elevated to the point where I am a blind gun toting red neck neocon republican, becasue I am not. Just as I am certain you are not one of these whacked out left wing liberals. There still is some middle ground people, most of them don't bother to voice opinions because they don't want to put up with the BS from highly opinionated, vicious, party line people FROM BOTH SIDES.