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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: tejek who wrote (588398)	7/7/2004 12:24:16 AM
From: Srexley	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

"The process is not open if you need a million dollars to run for office" You don't need that. This is another great example of a lefty "argument" that throws out a false premise, and then uses that to bolster his/her position. I happen to have a friend that went for town board of directors (or whatever they are called), to mayor to county supervisor. His next step if he suceeds would be state assymbly (state version of congress). He is younger than me, and has less money. And I don't have ANY WHERE NEAR a million dollars laying around. WHY, WHY do you guys do this? Are you being dishonest, or do you think you can do nothing in America unless you have a million, and also that people with a million have had it given to them? Try to get past this perception, and you will see America differently. It is not a land of special people getting things for free. It is a free democracy with laws to protect all people (except ones that aren't born yet) to be treated equally WHERE ANYBODY CAN MAKE IT. Very insulting to those that have made it that they are some lucky bastard instead of admiring them for their achievements. "How many friends do you have that can mortgage a 6 million dollar house to fund his presidential campaign?" You don't start with a Presidential campaign. If you did, you would get your clock cleaned. Seems like Edwards and Clinton are good examples of getting to the top with humble beginnings. So was Ronald Reagan. Can't understand your mindset AT ALL. Comments like the ones above that I am addressing are what makes you look like a whiner to me. I don't have a million, I can't do anything. Jeez, if I had a million, I'd buy something cool, not run for President. "the Bushies are getting people to believe all kinds of things about Kerry that are not true" Please provide an example. I will comment on it. I have a couple of good examples of the demos doing this to Bush. The leader of the dems, Terry McAullif said Bush was AWOL. Micheal Moore (claims not to be a demo) said he was a deserter (punishable by death btw). Ted Kennedy said he concoted the war at his ranch, and Al Gore says he betrayed the nation. Those are just off the top of my head. Give me an example with Bush. If your example is true, I will agree with you on it. If not, I will show why I think it is not. Can you do that? "but it was cleverly planned out and implemented so that there are still some people to this day who believe WMDs were found in Iraq" You're paranoid dude. The guy was in violation of a zillion UN resolutions, and the the congress and senate of the United States authorised to use force to enforce them. That Saddam chose to not cooperate is his problem, and the people of Iraq will be better for it. Tell me where Bush lied, which MANY MANY MANY dems claim. A little short on support, since the last President and Vice President have said the same things. Actually created an official policy of regime change, and that was before 9-11-01. "That plan was put together by wealthy and powerful people." I don't hate powerful and wealthy people, so this does not bother me. International relations put together by weak and poor people are generally ineffective. "However, it took a rich man (Moore)that film together" I hate this bastard. But I will credit him with becoming wealthy. He had NADA when he made Roger and me. He put his but out on the line, and made it big. This is a great country man. To use Moore as an example of someone who did not earn his millions is surprising. I have never taken a gamble any where near the size that he took. And even though I hate him, I will high five him (or would have anyway) for his initial success. But he is evil, and is now using his zillions to hurt out nation. Don't like him AT ALL. "Most of the rich inherited theirs." This is silly tejek. And the ones who did have it given to them and still made it big are most likely pretty smart and pretty motivated. You insult people that do well. You will never do well (if having money is your view of doing well) with the attitude that people are just luck bastards that someone gave them. To be frank, it sounds like a crutch for you not thinking you are doing well. "do you see a place where they busted their butts? " I don't condemn people for who their parents are. I use truth, loyalty, dedication, things like that. Most people who are given stuff are spoiled brats imo. If you are given something, and do something with it in a way it is harder than starting from scratch. "I'm talking rich rich......the people who live in the Hamptons, Beverly Hills, the upper East side, Marin county etc" You think they all lead perfect family lives? You are naive, dude. This crowd has some of the most disfunctional families of any group. "When the Amerian pie was only worth $1 billion fewer people could participate than when the pie became say $20 billion" I agree with that logic. I think it is a good thing. "but no one wants to think that there are limits to how far he can go in life" Then STOP DOING IT. Best advice I can give you. " I have seen a lot of people work very hard and become comfortable but never rich......" So what? What is wrong with being comfortable. Because everybody doesn't do it does not mean it can't be done. And what is your fascination with being rich all about anyway. I will take happiness over being rich ANY DAY. Not even close. Would a pot full of money make me happy? It wouldn't hurt, but if I did not earn it, I would have quite a guilt problem. "Then why do some guys who are damn smart and work their asses off only become comfortable?" What in the heck is wrong with becoming comfortable iyo? There is no gauantee to become rich here or anywhere. But I can't think of another place on earth where ANYBODY could do it. You have to stop looking at that statement as a gauantee. It is not, it is a possibility.