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To: mishedlo who wrote (8824)	7/7/2004 2:29:06 PM
From: yard_man	Respond to of 116555

this has been going on for a long time actually ... and it isn't just the old "protectionism" either -- some are starting to question the results -- some engineering can be outsourced profitably -- some can't -- gotta know the difference

To: mishedlo who wrote (8824)	7/7/2004 3:37:22 PM
From: benwood	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116555

I'm an engineer, and I've talked to my 16 1/2 year old a couple times in the past year about the prospects for engineering grads in the coming years -- very bleak -- and so work to steer him away. Don't think it's his bag anyway, but I think things will get far worse before they get better.

To: mishedlo who wrote (8824)	7/7/2004 4:36:08 PM
From: ChrisJP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116555

Outsourcing engineering -- I think this is one area that is slightly different that other outsourcing areas. The big problem with engineering in the USA is that its a very difficult 4-year degree and it doesn't position you for the stratospheric pay like Law and MBAs do. So most American kids aren't interested in engineering cuz it doesn't lead to a job where you can BS and shmooze your way up the pay scale. Why become an engineer when you can make 6 figures as a home refinancing loan officer ? So where are companies to go to find good engineering talent ? Offshore. Although I'm sure engineers in India are cheaper than US engineers, its not to the same degree as factory workers in India/China compared to factory workers here. Chris "Engineering Degree" JP