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Politics : Bush-The Mastermind behind 9/11? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: nz_q who wrote (7212)7/12/2004 12:00:19 PM
From: Skywatcher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039
 
Get ready folks. Florida was only the opener.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. officials have discussed the idea of postponing Election Day in the event of a terrorist attack on or about that day, a Homeland Security Department spokesman said Sunday.

The department has referred questions about the matter to the Department of Justice's Office of Legal Counsel, spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said.

The department wants to know about the possibility of granting emergency power to the newly created U.S. Election Assistance Commission,authority that Roehrkasse said was requested by DeForest B. Soaries Jr., the commission's chairman.

Soaries, who was appointed by President Bush, is a former New Jersey secretary of state and senior pastor of the 7,000-member First Baptist Church of Lincoln Gardens in Somerset, New Jersey.

He wrote in April to Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge and national security adviser Condoleezza Rice asking them to seek such legislation from Congress, Roehrkasse said.

Roehrkasse said the recent discussions were sparked by intelligence indicating al Qaeda wants to "disrupt our democratic process."

Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge warned of such an attack in a news conference last week, saying it was based on intercepted "chatter" among al Qaeda operatives.

Roehrkasse noted, however, that there was no specific information suggesting such an attack would be aimed at the political conventions or Election Day.

Democratic Rep. Jane Harman of California, a member of the House Intelligence Committee, took issue with Ridge's comments Sunday.

"Six days ago, the leadership of the House and Senate intelligence committees and leadership of the House and Senate were briefed on these so-called new threats," Harman said on CNN's "Late Edition."

"They are more chatter about old threats, which were the subject of a press conference by Attorney General [John] Ashcroft and [FBI] Director [Robert] Mueller six weeks ago.

"[Ridge] sounded more like an interior decorator talking about what more we can do under the shade of yellow," she said.

What has Homeland Security officials worried is that terrorists could attempt to disrupt the election in same way that March 11 train bombings in Madrid created unrest three days before the Spanish general election,Roehrkasse said.

Although there is no evidence that the bombings influenced the Spanish election, Socialist Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero unseated Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar, whose government supported the U.S.-led war in Iraq.



To: nz_q who wrote (7212)7/12/2004 12:01:02 PM
From: sea_urchin  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 20039
 
nz_q > People become scared, and give a blank check to the gov't.

Sure, but the American people would have given it anyway. In fact, most regard "patriotism" as meaning support for the government and if Americans are anything they are patriotic. I could understand drastic measures being taken against a populace if a country was verging on anarchy or revolution, but in 2000 the Americans were all well-fed and happy like "Carnation cows". Social unrest was the furthest thing in anyone's mind. In fact, Americans were so relaxed and indifferent that voter turnout in the Gore/Bush election was possibly the lowest ever.

> see who benefits, and then most if not all the answers are becoming clear

Not always so easy to see. That nebulous entity "big business" always benefits and likewise special interest groups and lobbies like JINSA. But they would benefit anyway.



To: nz_q who wrote (7212)7/12/2004 12:26:05 PM
From: Rock_nj  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 20039
 
I think the big part of the equation that the American people don't get about our democratic political system is that it is more of an illusion than a reality. The fact is the rich and powerful are going to get their way regardless of what democratic institutions want, and often democracy is manipulated to benefit those same rich and powerful people. Oh how convient government regulation has become to stiffle competition in the marketplace.