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To: Orcastraiter who wrote (11217)	7/12/2004 4:49:21 PM
From: JeffA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Why do you think like that? What do I have to hide? Nothing. Why should I subject myself to your insecurities and fears and allow you to put people, foreigners who largely do not understand our government, in a position of "monitoring." What could they do about it anyway? They have no status here. That dumb arguement goes back to the gun debate. ::whiny voice on:: "Why don't you want to register your guns? What have you got to hide?" ::whiny voice off:: ::Logical American citizen reply:: Because it is legal for me to own guns, I do not have to subject myself to registration or trackig for something that is legal, just to make John Q whiny public feel more secure. What have I got to hide. ::puke:: What kind of stupid reasoning is that? I am an Ameircan citizen. I do not answer to a foreign national when I am involved in something as American as voting for President of my country. If you cannot see that, then God forbid you ever be placed anywhere near a seat of governmental power. You probably agree with Kerry and think our troops should work under UN generals and be subject to an International Criminal Court that is staffed with people from countries who hate our guts. We are a sovereign nation. We answer to and police ourselves. As soon as we lose that, we are no longer the United States of America. "What do you have to hide?" What a stupid, stupid, line of arguement.

To: Orcastraiter who wrote (11217)	7/12/2004 5:15:01 PM
From: Oeconomicus	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

US elections are already the most transparent and most scrutinized in the world. We don't need "observers" from the club of despots to ensure they are "free and fair". What's more, requesting official observers implies 1) that we can't administer clean elections on our own and 2) that the UN has standing to judge our electoral processes. Any member of congress saying such things deserves to be booted by the voters at the earliest opportunity. If any American has a legitimate legal beef with elections anywhere in this country, they can and should take it up with state or federal courts where the cases will be addressed fairly and transparently. And if you'd trust the UN - that enlightened body with its oil-for-food-skimming and "human rights" commission memberships for Sudan and Zimbabwe - ahead of our courts to protect your voting rights, I suggest you move to Sudan or Zimbabwe.

To: Orcastraiter who wrote (11217)	7/12/2004 5:46:08 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 90947

Hmmmm.... 1. The observers can have axes of their own to grind. In fact, I would be quite surprised were that not true of UN personnel. 2. As mentioned elsewhere, US elections are ALREADY the most closely monitored and watched in world. If we had nothing else, we'd have you and your ilk.