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Politics : Just the Facts, Ma'am: A Compendium of Liberal Fiction -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Orcastraiter who wrote (11745)	7/18/2004 9:00:11 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Oh, cut the crap. Either quit exaggerating and stick to the facts or take the consequences. What you said was Doctors can't make that much money in Canada, because the people don't have that much money. which implies a rather significant disparity between the incomes of Canadians and Americans. In fact, the disparity is fairly small. Canada is in fact a first-world country, as is obvious from those figures and obvious to anyone who has been there. I read the article posted by BCB Did you catch this part? Although 100% of Canadians have healthcare insurance, it does no good for the 18% of them who have trouble finding a doctor. Contrast that with the United States where 15% may be without insurance, but only 6% go without needed care as a result. Our system may have its problems, but access to care isn't one of them. At least not when compared to Canada's. But Canada's system does a good job of providing everyday needs. Not if you don't get to see a doctor AT ALL, it doesn't. It falls down in everyday and preventative treatment but excells in state of the art expensive treatments. That's BS and you know it. By far the largest proportion of medical care delivered in this country is routine. Heart transplants are rare in comparison. And there's another point to be made: Large scale use of exotic technology makes it routine and less expensive. WHen first introduced, bith CAT scans and MRI scans were seriously expensive. The price of the scans has fallen enormously and the availability has broadened enormously because increased use has brought in more competition and lowered the price of the equipment. We have many great institutions and universities that contribute to that. Those great universities commonly have clinics attached that treat everyday problems. You must crawl before you can run. I think we can maintain the best of our system, while adopting the best of Canadian style care as well. That statement is so absurd it stretches the bounds of ludicrousity. The Canadians couldn't. The British couldn't. WHat makes you think we are so much better or smarter than they? I need to see a doctor right now. But I won't go because it will be too expensive for my budget. My family comes first. My minor problem will have to go unattended. If I were Canadian I could go to the doctor. Would you? There seems to be a problem finding one. And one of the problems encountered with any "free" system is overuse. Perhaps some disincentives to use scarce resources isn't so bad. The HMO's and the lawyers love it though. So you are going to help out by putting a trial lawyer one heartbeat from the Presidency? I wouldn't mind paying in to a national healthcare system if it can give me good health care. This is the GOVERNMENT we speak of. What makes you think you can back out again when you find it doesn't? Tried resigning from your local school district lately and take your tax payments with you so you can send your kids to private school? Our system sucks. Gee, it looks like theirs does too. You need to get out more and see what's going on. Get over to Britain and listen to THEM scream and yell about their nationalized system. You may come back a changed man.