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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (54954)7/19/2004 12:32:31 AM
From: unclewest  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793895
 
Most Americans will rally round the flag. But there's a sizable camp who will blame another attack not on OBL but on Bush. 'he made them mad, he didn't address their grievances, he kicked the hornets nest in Iraq, etc.'

Nadine,
Those who believe their freedoms are a right but not invulnerable will rally. The Kerry led left that wants a babysitter will moan.

I don't think OBL understands or frankly cares enough about the mentality of the West to have designed this outcome. In 9/11, the medium was the message and OBL was content to be "the scourge of Allah". A more short-term political mentality was at work in the Madrid bombings.

I think obl and his senior advisors are both extremely clever and quite capable of evaluating and projecting our likely responses. They even tested our responses before hammering us. By some reports, they are conducting similar tests again.

The success in Madrid ensures similar aq attacks will be attempted to influence elections elsewhere.
uw



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (54954)7/19/2004 9:37:03 AM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793895
 
Most Americans will rally round the flag. But there's a sizable camp who will blame another attack not on OBL but on Bush. 'he made them mad, he didn't address their grievances, he kicked the hornets nest in Iraq, etc.'

At usual all this stuff of dichotomies is much, much too simple.

Whatever happens at such a point, and no one should wish for such, one of the serious arguments that will be afloat is that the US government failed to do enough to protect the country. Specifically, not enough money was put into helping "first responders". In addition, not enough is being done for airline safety, for detection at harbors, the list is a long one.

If there were some evidence the Bush folk were seriously trying to round up enough dollars and organizational skills to get that done, but just fell short, then those criticisms would not be taken seriously. But as it presently stands, they've been more focused on trying to insure their tax cuts for the wealthy stand, than on spending the dollars necessary to care for that.

That's not unAmerican; just good healthy criticism. And we should all encourage such.