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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (141385)	7/27/2004 9:57:29 AM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Best defense a good offense, eh, Win? #reply-20338999 Notice anything ironic in that response, Nadine? Then there's the ironic "evidence" issue, in two parts: zero examples to back your offense here, and the long history of Salman Pak incantation - style "evidence" you generally hold with. Under conventional reality, Laurie Mylroie is not exactly considered a definitive source. Anyway, back to the original Filkins allegedly-not-bogus bitch. In a war that seems more like a quagmire every day, has Filkins ever written an article on Iraq without this sentence? There isn't even anything in the rest of the article to support the much beloved 'quagmire' word. #reply-20342596 This was in response to #reply-20260990 , a long, generally complimentary article about Petraeus . You couldn't even find a whole sentence to carp about, but never mind, I fully understand from long experience the usual "look for a sentence to bitch about" reading method. Filkins shows up in the byline of 187 articles since 3/1/03, all of them about Iraq as near as I can tell, and he used the dreaded q-word exactly once, in passing. I realize that every word printed in the NYT is supposed to be subject to true believer censorship, but that's a looking glass thing. And on the "intellectual honesty" front, quagmire doesn't seem an entirely inappropriate word for the mess in Iraq, just as "imminent threat" seems a fairly good characterization of the pre-war propaganda campaign line on Iraq, even if that word and that phrase are officially verboten under official conservative "facts and logic" analysis.