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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (51794)7/25/2004 3:15:43 PM
From: twmoore  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
It seems that you believe everything that you read in the comic books. (American newspapers)Maybe you should read this.

Saddam Could Call CIA in His Defense
by Sanjay Suri
LONDON - Evidence offered by a top CIA man could confirm the testimony given by Saddam Hussein at the opening of his trial in Baghdad Thursday that he knew of the Halabja massacre only from the newspapers.

Thousands were reported killed in the gassing of Iraqi Kurds in Halabja in the north of Iraq in March 1988 towards the end of Iraq's eight-year war with Iran. The gassing of the Kurds has long been held to be the work of Ali Hassan al-Majid, named in the West because of that association as 'Chemical Ali'. Saddam Hussein is widely alleged to have ordered Ali to carry out the chemical attack.

The Halabja massacre is now prominent among the charges read out against Saddam in the Baghdad court. When that charge was read out, Saddam replied that he had read about the massacre in a newspaper. Saddam has denied these allegations ever since they were made. But now with a trial on, he could summon a witness in his defense with the potential to blow apart the charge and create one of the greatest diplomatic disasters the United States has ever known.



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (51794)7/25/2004 3:24:43 PM
From: twmoore  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Or maybe this...
Downing Street has admitted to The Observer that repeated claims by Tony Blair that '400,000 bodies had been found in Iraqi mass graves' is untrue, and only about 5,000 corpses have so far been uncovered.

observer.guardian.co.uk



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (51794)7/25/2004 3:44:54 PM
From: Steve Lokness  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
You want world eyes? HERE!!!!!!

washingtonpost.com

It doesn't take much of a genius to figure out we are losing in the opinion of the world. 100% of our ally Egypt now have an "unfavorable opinion" of the US.

Hawk, I was recently in a bar in Ireland where the band played a song highly critical and making fun of America - the crowd cheered. Is was very sad. Is that how you want the rest of the world to view America?

Pat Buchanan had it right this morning when he said that what the 9-11 report did not ask was why. WHY do they hate us. Until we start getting that why figured out we are in for some real trouble. I admire your defense of Bush - but we are in danger of creating an unstable world and Bush is responsible!!

steve



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (51794)7/25/2004 5:50:33 PM
From: Seeker of Truth  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
The US is combating evil in one oil rich country and neglecting it in the rest of the world, particularly in Afghanistan which should have had sole attention by those who want to wipe out the 9/11 vermin. Money spent on the endless war in Iraq could much better have been spent on building up the economy of Afghanistan. Making friends instead of enemies. The investment take is as usual, long oil and gas stocks. Avoid the US dollar. Buy NEM,gold, on dips.
As to why evil terrorists hate the US, of course it's because it's a wonderful democracy unlike dictatorships such as France, Germany,Norway, Sweden, Finland,Canada,Spain etc.



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (51794)7/26/2004 7:26:13 AM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Hawk, I'm pleased to see Russia part way to accepting that Saddam's debts to the USSR/Russia are not Iraq's debts and that they are accepting the idea of writing off half of them. They are half way there. Now for the other half.

Asking Saddam's victims to pay back loans made to Saddam to suport his power over his victims is simply insane.

The idea of lending to a country is a bad one. Even democratic countries can reasonably repudiate loans as it's the governments who incur the debt. The opposition to said government shouldn't have to pay for their follies.

People lending to countries should not. I am currently taking my chances by holding US$, which is me lending my money to Uncle Sam and Uncle Al, which is foolish, but I hope is worth the bet. I will not be surprised to see eventual repudiation of the debt, by rapid pixelation of new $$$$ to stave off financial glitches, as has always been done in the past.

If the voters decide to cancel old US$ and issue a new one, I won't be surprised and won't expect them to repay the debt. Though I'll appreciate it if they do.

I realize this isn't quite the same thing as a loan, but it's still credit on the promise of material goods and services being delivered some day.

Mqurice