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To: Dayuhan who wrote (56206)	7/26/2004 1:06:31 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793987

MTV as proxy for Western culture. I would have thought that the proxies for western (by which I assume you mean US) culture are movies and video games. Even my kids don't watch MTV, but they are voracious consumers of not only US movies and video games, but Japanimation. Everything I know about Japanese culture, I learned from Japanimation and samurai movies (slight exaggeration, also sushi restaurants). Everything I know about China, I learned from Jackie Chan, Jet Li, "Crouching Tiget, Hidden Dragon", etc. (Again, slight exaggeration.) Everything I know about India, I learned from Bollywood. (Again, slight exaggeration.) I've had co-workers, clients, doctors, hairdressers, etc. from almost everywhere in the world, but they seem so much like everybody else, except for social conventions.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (56206)	7/26/2004 2:08:28 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793987

That doesn’t suggest a causative relationship between media extravagance and violence against women. Free, prosperous societies will always stretch – and usually break – the boundaries of traditional morality. That’s what happens when people are free. There is much more to it than freedom vs. oppression. There is the underlying attitude towards women - to put it starkly, are they people or are they livestock? The Arab world, taking its cue from the Byzantine world, always lent toward the 'livestock' end of the spectrum. The Arab world never developed an equivalent of Europe's code of chivalry, and you'll notice that this was long before flaunting sexual freedom got much play anywhere. Ottoman envoys to Europe in the 15th and 16th and 17th centuries wrote home with amazement regarding the astonishing levels of freedom and respect accorded to ladies.