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To: Win Smith who wrote (141654)	7/27/2004 3:39:59 PM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Are you talking about Okrent, or not? Well, gee, Winnie, why don't you back track a few posts and see? I've noted that you couldn't follow or remember your own arguments, and clearly don't want to deal with mine, so perhaps there is no hope for you. In your present intentionally obtuse mode, anyway. You really think Berger and Wilson are minor players? Perhaps you're right, they were serious back then, not worth much anymore. In fact, Kerry has now deleted any reference to Wilson in his website. Pants, of course, got the boot. Wonder how many original documents did he steal that the Commission might have wanted to see? I suppose the NYT will duly report that the WH provided Berger with triple pocket pants to stuff documents into and that Lyin' Joe's poolside tea-drinking was really, really effective.

To: Win Smith who wrote (141654)	7/27/2004 5:23:44 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Your obsession with Berger and Wilson is again duly noted, but I think most people would consider them at best minor players at the moment. Yes, a great many people in the media consider Joe Wilson a very minor player, now that his credibility has been shredded. However, when he was claiming that he "proved" that Bush "lied" in the infamous 16 words in his SOTU speech, then he was a major player worthy of many, many stories. Howard Kurtz of WaPo Media Notes has the numbers: Former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV's allegations that President Bush misled the country about Saddam Hussein seeking uranium from Africa was a huge media story, fueled by an investigation into who outed his CIA-operative wife. According to a database search, NBC carried 40 stories, CBS 30 stories, ABC 18, The Washington Post 96, the New York Times 70, the Los Angeles Times 48. But a Senate Intelligence Committee report that contradicts some of Wilson's account and supports Bush's State of the Union claim hasn't received nearly as much attention. "NBC Nightly News" and ABC's "World News Tonight" have each done a story. But CBS hasn't reported it -- despite a challenge by Republican Chairman Ed Gillespie on CBS's "Face the Nation," noting that the network featured Wilson on camera 15 times. A spokeswoman says CBS is looking into the matter. Newspapers have done slightly better. The Post, which was the first to report the findings July 10, has run two stories, an editorial and an ombudsman's column; the New York Times two stories and an op-ed column; and the Los Angeles Times two stories. Wilson, meanwhile, has defended himself from what he calls "a Republican smear campaign" in op-ed pieces in The Post and Los Angeles Times. washingtonpost.com