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To: nspolar who wrote (10704)	7/29/2004 11:36:04 AM
From: tyc:>	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 312405

To loantech and nspolar; OT Thankyou both for your recent OT posts. If you represent the American voter, American democracy is alive and strong and we dis-enfranchised in the rest of the world need not despair. (But how many will decline to exercise their vote, even when their rights and liberties may be at stake ?).

To: nspolar who wrote (10704)	7/29/2004 12:05:01 PM
From: loantech	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 312405

nsp I am glad you are voting this time. In fact I have said for along time no fair to complain if you don't vote. <g> <I'm tired of tunnel vision politics, my way or no way, fear mongering, forgetting the fact that we are supposed to have separation of church and state> This is a big one. There must be the separation and people must learn to think for themselves. < I guess they feel they are so far above us mere mortals that what anyone else has to say or offer is just claptrap.> I was really disappointed in the news media last night. The demos have anew idea unity not dividing, hope not fear mongering and curing problems by consensus not by might is right. The news boyz said it was boring it was too planned. What do they want more dirty politics? No planning? It will be interesting to see how much dirt the Republicans toss instead of saying why the budget is now a mess, why they lost so many jobs the first 3 years and the ones they got this year are from number twisting changes, ie: life death models etc, and why the plan in Iraq has gone so haywire. <Besides, reading, learning, etc. is fun.> It is but most people don't read much they just suck uo to the TV all the time. I am afraid that most people won't even vote or pay attention to either convention. Too many people are to apathetic in all ways. <It makes it much more difficult for the fear monger and tunnel vision leaders to survive.> I hope so. At least the demos are presenting an idea of hope and unity. It may be a hard thing to deliver but it is better than ruling by fear and division. <I don't think GWB has a chance in hell come November. He has short comings, but he also has to pack that baggage along by > I don't know NSP I am not as assured of that as yourself. Tom

To: nspolar who wrote (10704)	7/30/2004 10:07:38 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Respond to of 312405

nsp, Always vote. Even if like me you keep feeling you get the government that somebody else deserves at least you gave it your best shot, you have the right to bellyache or celebrate as the case may be, and one day you just might overcome ;o) Despite my flippant remark on democracy to LJ Churchill was right... democracy sucks... but it sucks the least... or as Mick once said... you can't always get what you want... but if you try sometime.. you just might find ... you get what you need...