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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Wayners who wrote (40464)	8/5/2004 9:59:05 AM
From: cirrus	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81568

Please stop passing along totally false allegations. Kerry was written up for the silver star by his commanding officer, George Elliott. "I ended up writing it up for a Silver Star, which is well deserved, and I have no regrets or second thoughts at all about that," said Elliot. The story was corraborated by crewmen Frederic Short and Charles Gibson. Read the entire first hand account here: snopes.com I've given you names and links to support everything I write. I'm disappointed that all you've done is accuse Kerry of being a war criminal - without a shred of evidence to support that allegation.

To: Wayners who wrote (40464)	8/5/2004 10:40:08 AM
From: Wayners	Respond to of 81568

There is a major contradiction in events. The Citation says the VC had a rocket in the chamber behind the shack. The Kerry website doesn't mention it. Its important becaused if the VC was unarmed behind behind the hooch and wounded by the M60 .308 cal MG, then Kerry applying the "Coup De Grace" killing him with his sidearm point blank was a war crime. Now look at the following link showing a B40 rocket and how large it and the rocket is. geocities.com The report would have you believe this VC fired a B40 rocket, was hit by .308 cal MG in the leg no less, ran (how?) behind a hooch with the B40 still in tow. No way. Kerry shot and killed a wounded unarmed man point blank. Thats an illegal killing. And there clearly was no enemy postion there, just a single VC otherwise Kerry would have been cut down by small arms fire on the shore. It says there is an enemy position there, but it seems it was one man with a single B-40 rocket, which was fired at the boat, leaving the launcher empty. So how can there be a round in the chamber? How does killing a guy with an empty rocket launcher who is wounded in the face of no other enemy fire warrant a silver star exactly? Like I said, its a fraud. To legitimately get a SS you have to go above the call of duty. This incident doesn't qualify. Silver Star Citation. Arriving at the area, Lieutenant (junior grade) KERRY's craft received a B-40 rocket close aboard. Once again Lieutenant (junior grade) KERRY ordered his units to charge the enemy positions and summoned Patrol Craft Fast 43 to the area to provide additional firepower. Patrol Craft Fast 94 then beached in the center of the enemy positions and an enemy soldier sprang up from his position not ten feet from Patrol Craft Fast 94 and fled. Without hesitation Lieutenant (junior grade) KERRY leaped ashore, pursued the man behind a hootch and killed him, capturing a B-40 rocket launcher with a round in the chamber. Kerry website version of events: Returning from the site, a B-40 rocket exploded close to PCF94, blowing out one of the windows. Kerry again ordered the units to turn into the fire and charge the ambush site. PCF 94 landed in the center of ambush and a man jumped up holding a B-40 rocket launcher and started to run. The forward M-60 gunner on PCF94 wounded him in the leg as Kerry jumped off the boat and chased him inland behind a hooch and shot him. Marines swept the area, and received fire from snipers and small arms that was suppressed with the assistance of mortars and gunfire from the swiftboats. The landing parties found vast stores of rice, ammunition and clothing. The boats were fired on one additional time as they were heading back down the river. The site of the second ambush was believed to be a major Viet Cong supply point. Kerry received the Silver Star for this operation.